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    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:18:24 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228657#msg-228657</link>
      <author>Boo Cipher</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hey Terry,

A good buddy of mine has published a Remembrance Day poem that once I have his permission I would like for you to see.

Good to see you're still kicking; guess you opted out of crab catching this year?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:18:24 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228326#msg-228326</link>
      <author>petersz</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Please, then, stop spraying testosterone on our legs.

Peter]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:31:21 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228312#msg-228312</link>
      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[That's just racist.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:53:59 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228310#msg-228310</link>
      <author>Merc</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Will someone give Senor Urine a slight overdose of cloroform?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:29:55 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228308#msg-228308</link>
      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ah, but I prefer merely stating my intentions of entering an animalistic fury and fucking my chosen female into a trance. Course this doesn't work on most women, but then, most women can't keep up.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:10:51 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228306#msg-228306</link>
      <author>petersz</author>
      <description><![CDATA[flirting is contrarily a most pleasing and invigorating activity, P.  You should try it some time.

Peter]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:45:02 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228297#msg-228297</link>
      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Would you two stop flirting? Really grossing me out.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:24:04 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228284#msg-228284</link>
      <author>petersz</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Yes I do. (o).]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:05:09 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228282#msg-228282</link>
      <author>Merc</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Remember the &quot;Far Side&quot; where the lady looks in the mirror and it says &quot;objects in the mirror are closer than they appear&quot;  and all she can see is an eye?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:43:24 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228268#msg-228268</link>
      <author>petersz</author>
      <description><![CDATA[&quot;Every time I look in my rear-view mirror, everything is left to right and right to left and racing away from me in the distance.'

Anyway, using the past as a paradigm for present action may be one of the reasons we keep repeating the mistakes of the past.

be well,

Peter]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:22:38 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228260#msg-228260</link>
      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Well then, let me rephrase the question. You are born into a living hell. Your society is one of madmen. You are beaten and raped daily, essentially a slave, this is allowed because it will &quot;toughen&quot; you. You are a child, you are physically and mentally incapable of changing your circumstances. Your life is hell. However, should you survive to adulthood you will be as your society, madmen bent on the destruction of everything but themselves. You will be this way because all you've seen of the world, even from your own kin, is savagery. 

Before you are permanently corrupted, someone infiltrates your land, and offers escape. Do you deny that offer?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:27:35 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
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      <author>ElementaryStartle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The situation we are discussing is far from the cruelty of environmental factors, it falls in the category of the cruelty of human nature. That changes the situation, a lot.

Also, when I said that people can solve their own problems, the meaning was that the people along with their government and officials can help themselves. The should not require any outside help. Politically speaking. I mean as long as the Sheriff comes from the same town, he can and should interfere.

Even though it is universal for one to look for safe havens, it differs when that safe haven also poses a threat to their identity. Being taken out of the situation by the people who originally put them in that situation, not many would leave willingly, and not many would be happy about it.

But once more, I see what you mean and I see that you did what you believed was best in that situation.

Thank you,
Startle]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:41:22 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228255#msg-228255</link>
      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Oh lord, I thought I was alone in my hatred of Rachael Ray. Thank you. You have no idea how much this means to me. She treats the bar of food standards like a limbo stick.

As to the mirror. How does that quote go? &quot;He who masters the past commands the present.&quot;]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:27:35 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228250#msg-228250</link>
      <author>Merc</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Peter, 
I hate this!  I agree with you completely!  Love that line about the mirror.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:00:25 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228248#msg-228248</link>
      <author>petersz</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Merc,

&quot;We make the best judgement we can and act accordingly.&quot; 

I'll second that any day...that's just the way it is...no one has much foresight...just lots of hindsight.  But you can't live your life looking through a rear-view mirror, unless you want to run off the road...frequently.

Peter]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:51:44 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228246#msg-228246</link>
      <author>Merc</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I am the original &quot;Do it yourself&quot; advocate, however it's hard to get food for yourself when you are starving to death.  When there are bodies in the streets from hunger and disease.  It is hard to do it for yourself when a tsunami has just leveled over half of your known world.  It is hard to do for yourself when the guy with all the food has a bigger gun.  Sometimes, somneone has to call the sherrif.

Taking people out of East Germany back in the day made life better for them by their judgement.  I don't know who got the worse of that.  I've never helped anyone who didn't want my help.  I'll leave you in the street to die if that is what you prefer.  You are nothing to me but an adrenilin rush and a damn good paycheck.

Making life better for some often makes it worse for others.  I helped in a prison break on Madagascar once, it made life much better for about 120 Brits, and real bad for some indiginous folks.  For several of the locals, it ended their lives that night.  I make no appology.

Johnny, what if the one in need becomes Michalenglo?    Not ours to question.  We make the best judgement we can and act accordingly.  Help or ignore.  It's all the same to me.  There are people on this board I'd die for and some I wouldn't.  My judgement, because it's me who has to make the call to help or not to help.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:38:28 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228243#msg-228243</link>
      <author>JohnnyBoy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[No, the real question is, should the passing stranger help, because what if the one in need eventually becomes the next Hitler or Rachael Ray or something?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:57:34 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228241#msg-228241</link>
      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Indeed, chaos theory states that any event can lead to any phenomenon. But hypocrisy is the sign of a fool, or a liar. Were you to find yourself in a desert lost and near death due to having misread a map, would you accept help from a passing stranger?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:19:11 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228240#msg-228240</link>
      <author>ElementaryStartle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[You might be correct. However, those people were besieged by whom? Also, if they wanted it, they should've done it themselves. My belief is that one must allow others to work out their own problems so that they would not be dependent on that who had solved their problems. It is the only way one can survive. 

No one fully knows the consequences of their interference. What made life better for one, might've made it a lot worse for someone else.

Nevertheless, I somewhat understand where you are coming from, even if I don't necessarily like it.

Much appreciated,
Startle]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:08:09 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228218#msg-228218</link>
      <author>Merc</author>
      <description><![CDATA[My assertion that what I was doing was the good for the locals is made because most of what I have done falls under humanitarian.  We hauled medical supplies, food, clothes, etc to beseiged people.  Also, we were doing what the local people wanted us to do.  I was in Kuwait with a C-130 full of doctors, nurses, medical stuff clothes, food, all kinds of nice stuff BEFORE the Iraqi army was out of there.
Very seldom have I worked for one political side or another.  I won't report, nor defend the times I have here, but when we left, life was usually better for those whom we tried to help.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:57:03 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228189#msg-228189</link>
      <author>ElementaryStartle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Don't worry. Then again, back-peddling often brings new things into focus and allows one to pursue something from a different, undiscovered aspect.

Startle]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:19:30 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228188#msg-228188</link>
      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[No, no. I merely feel doing something right the first time is preferable to repeatedly back-peddling to solve problems that could have been gotten out of the way earlier.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:16:10 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
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      <author>ElementaryStartle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Very well then. First, I would like to say that your presumption is true. It is indeed not m native language. However, don't stop reading right there, because I have more to say in an understandable language.

English or any other language being one's native language does not necessarily mean that one has a high understanding of it. I say this with first-hand experience. Secondly, perhaps your reference to taking things at a slower pace is merely a result of your not being able to keep up .I mean no ill intent, merely coming to a logical conclusion. I have not yet had any trouble discerning your meaning, perhaps you have mine?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:08:26 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
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      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Are you asking if english is your native language? If that is the question, I would say no.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:55:33 +0100</pubDate>
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      <author>ElementaryStartle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I will leave that to your assertion, as you seem to believe yourself such a knowledgeable source on what level of skill is required in this language to continue this conversation.

So tell me, what do you think?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:49:36 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
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      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It seems we agree that our primitive inheritance is the cause of this strife, if I am correct? But I would like to clarify, again, that I am not &quot;accepting&quot; this, war and other such conflicts, to be unchangeable eventualities. I am looking at it with as cold an eye as possible, looking at even the things I don't want to see, so as to find the proper arrangement of pieces required of peace. That is, while the fighting is indeed foolish, there is a reason, if not a purpose, for it.

Now, as I see this conversation continuing for some time, you must tell me something of extreme importance. Is english your native language? If not, we have a large problem in that discussing things of such depth requires a highly trained understanding of language. If english is not your native, things must take a slower pace, so less misunderstandings occur.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:45:35 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228179#msg-228179</link>
      <author>ElementaryStartle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[When I say unnatural, I mean should not be happening. It is happening of course, but should not be. The world is not right with it, it is not balanced. Acceptance fits into this only partially. It is all about balance really, human nature does not decree that we fight each other purposelessly, which is what war is.

 What do we agree on then, in your opinion?

Startle]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:37:32 +0100</pubDate>
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      <link>http://www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?5,227865,228177#msg-228177</link>
      <author>Mr. P</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ah, I see. So it's not that we disagree on the point of our instinctive inheritance causing strife, but on our separate definitions of &quot;natural&quot;. When I say natural, I do not mean acceptable. I mean it is reality. I am not saying it cannot be fixed, I'm saying that without accepting reality, and thus understanding it, things cannot be changed. Now, what do we agree on, that being stated?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:33:30 +0100</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Miracle Man</title>
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      <author>ElementaryStartle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[You have theorized that war is a result of primitive nature and incomplete evolution. I have theorized that humanity and our quest for peace is a result of the same incomplete evolution, and stated as well that a balance of instinct and our will to continue our quest for 'complete evolution' and humanity is a result of the evolving we have done thus far, and our need to continue doing so.

A solution is indeed available, we do not quit seeking peace, we do not quit rejecting war, violence and the spilling of blood and accept it as human nature. And finally we hope that good change will come, perhaps tomorrow, perhaps in the next century, or aeon. Perhaps that change is you or me. Perhaps this conversation will inspire someone to take action ...

I know one thing though for sure; we must not give up.

Startle]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:26:15 +0100</pubDate>
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      <author>lifeisbutadream</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I second your spirit, Startle!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:08:59 +0100</pubDate>
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