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"If's wintry..."
Posted by: antje (---.utu.fi)
Date: September 29, 2004 05:39AM

Hi, can anyone help me to locate a poem that starts(?) "If's wintry". If I remember correctly it's a farirly short poem, free rhyme...
Heard it discussed during my studies BUT I threw out all the notes recently! I knew that was a mistake!!!
I'd be really grateful for any suggestions!!!
Thank you, Antje.


Re: "If's wintry..."
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: September 29, 2004 05:59AM

It's e.e. cummings, yes is a pleasant country:

1 X 1 [One Times One], X, XXXVIII


yes is a pleasant country:
if's wintry
(my lovely)
let's open the year

both is the very weather
(not either)
my treasure,
when violets appear

love is a deeper season
than reason;
my sweet one
(and april's where we're)


Les



Post Edited (09-29-04 05:01)


Re: "If's wintry..."
Posted by: antje (---.utu.fi)
Date: September 29, 2004 08:44AM

HI Les, thank you very much!!!! How come you knew it? I'm terrible at memorising texts and the respective authors...
Antje.


Re: "If's wintry..."
Posted by: Talia (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: September 29, 2004 10:56AM

You know, i was just thinking how this poem would not be very effective, if read aloud only, and not read along to, don't ya think?


Re: "If's wintry..."
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-05rh15-16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: September 29, 2004 12:02PM

How come you knew it?

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how this poem would not be very effective, if read aloud only ...

No comprendo.


Re: "If's wintry..."
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: September 29, 2004 12:54PM

Hugh, is right, google will find practically anything that has been printed and is not in copyright. I don't know who types all of this stuff onto the internet, but I thank them for it.

Les


Re: "If's wintry..."
Posted by: IanB (---.tnt11.mel1.da.uu.net)
Date: September 29, 2004 10:56PM

If you mean what I think you mean, Talia, you're right. My philosophy on poetry recitation, or reading aloud, is that it gets a pass only if it makes the poem at least as accessible and comprehensible and poetic to the listener as it is on the printed page to a reader. Preferably it should make it better for the listener. There are voice techniques that can help with that, of course, but even with techniques, poems which can be admired on the page vary greatly in their degree of difficulty for oral presentation. Well written ballads are among the easiest. Partly because it's surrealistic even on the printed page, I'd rate this one by e e cummings as among the most difficult, though not impossible. I have a thespian friend who might manage it. He can read aloud nonsense dialogue by Samuel Beckett and make it sound perfectly sensible while you're listening!




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