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Posted by: rosslyntemplar (192.168.128.---)
Date: October 29, 2006 02:59PM

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2006 01:50PM by rosslyntemplar.


Re: Jackie Kay`s Old Tongue
Posted by: Hugh Clary (192.168.128.---)
Date: October 30, 2006 05:48PM

Here is another page with slightly different formatting. Could be important, I am guessing:

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Here the italics add something and the author uses the current technique of only capitalizing letters at the beginning of a line when they start a new sentence.

Lots of unfamiliar references, likely understood by Scots. Shut yer geggie or I’ll gie you the malkie! sounds like, shut your face, or you get the back of me hand! and gie it laldie apparently means to give it hell (take one's best shot).

I don't see any particular familiar fixed form, nor a recurring meter or rhyme scheme. The author appears to be playing with the poem at the same time she is playing with words as she is composing the piece.

One gets a stumble right at the beginning with,

When I was eight, I was forced south.
Not long after, when I opened
my mouth ...

Makes one think that mouth was to rhyme with south and the lines were copied incorrectly. Same thing with,

Out in the English soil, my old words
buried themselves. It made my mother’s blood boil

Here, boil stands out as a rhyme for soil in the previous line, but again the author seems merely to be playing with her creation. Are these internal rhymes? Well, mebbe. But no such constantly recurring patterns throughout. So, safe to say her poem wanders off much the same way her youth and native tongue did? Your call.

The individual lines run the gamut of pentameter down to trimeter, mostly iambic and anapestic choices in meter. You can also look for wordplay such as assonance, consonance and alliteration, along with metaphors and similes (try to find them). Personification in there? What say you? Any other such tropes?


Re: Jackie Kay`s Old Tongue
Posted by: rosslyntemplar (192.168.128.---)
Date: November 02, 2006 09:13AM

Thanks

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2006 01:48PM by rosslyntemplar.


Re: Jackie Kay`s Old Tongue
Posted by: Hugh Clary (192.168.128.---)
Date: November 02, 2006 01:11PM

Here is how I parse it:

when I was EIGHT, i WAS forced SOUTH. (tetrameter - iambic)
NOT long AFTer, WHEN I OPened (trochees, acatalectic)
my MOUTH, a STRANGE thing HAPPened. (trimeter now - iambs, trailing syllable)
I LOST my SCOTTish ACCent. (iambs + trailing)
WORDS fell OFF my TONGUE: (trochees, catalectic)

The term catalectic means the meter is short the final syllable (tongue would have to be tonguey to complete the trochee), and acatalectic means it is complete. Trailing syllables is kinda the opposite, but I am not aware of any specific term for such phenomena. How that could have escaped a label, I am totally befuddled. You could also think of the endings as being either masculine (single syllable) or feminine, two or more syllables.

That is, south and tongue are masculine, whereas opened, happened and accent are feminine. To be more unfair, Iamb, TROchee and DACtyl are all trochees, but ANapest is a dactyl! Hopefully that will clear up all confusion? Yeah, right, Hugh.

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