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Posted by: m00n (---.qualitynet.net)
Date: July 25, 2005 04:57PM

hi
I need help from you in improving my grammar; by defining to me a topic to write about it then you correct my language, grammar and how to avoid my mistake and this essay will be in 500 words could any one do that and help me?


Re: essays
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.att.net)
Date: July 25, 2005 06:40PM

You think we all just fell off the turnip truck, right?


Re: essays
Posted by: m00n (62.150.147.---)
Date: July 25, 2005 07:14PM

Hugh Clary Wrote:
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You think we all just fell off the turnip truck,
right?

actully i couldn't understand what u mean. all what i ask is help



Re: essays
Posted by: Desi (Moderator)
Date: July 26, 2005 05:19AM

hugh, this is someone who actually wants to improve spelling and grammar! Be nice!

Sure I can help, moon. You can post it here if you write about poetry, otherwise just send me something via email. Where are you from?


Re: essays
Posted by: m00n (---.qualitynet.net)
Date: July 26, 2005 07:53AM

Desi Wrote:
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hugh, this is someone who actually wants to
improve spelling and grammar! Be nice!

Sure I can help, moon. You can post it here if you
write about poetry, otherwise just send me
something via email. Where are you from?


thank u dear I will write about it and it's nice from u.I am from kwait


Re: essays
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.att.net)
Date: July 26, 2005 11:44AM

Hmmm ... my mistake, sorry. The 'turnip truck' idiom means that one thinks his/her audience is naive and will believe just about any made up story. We get a lot of posts here where students are merely looking to have someone else do their homework for them, I mean. Kuwait, huh? Well, I will try to do better, and see what I can do to help.

I will see if I can define a topic, then ask for an essay and make necessary corrections. I am thinking that a poetry topic is required, since this is a poetry forum.

In a 500-word essay, discuss the following poem by Thomas Hardy:

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"Had he and I but met
By some old ancient inn,
We should have sat us down to wet
Right many a nipperkin!

"But ranged as infantry,
And staring face to face,
I shot at him as he at me,
And killed him in his place.

"I shot him dead because--
Because he was my foe,
Just so: my foe of course he was;
That's clear enough; although

"He thought he'd 'list, perhaps,
Off-hand like--just as I--
Was out of work--had sold his traps--
No other reason why.

"Yes; quaint and curious war is!
You shoot a fellow down
You'd treat if met where any bar is,
Or help to half-a-crown."


Include, in your paper, an explication of the poem's meaning, the meter used (short meter), its rhyme scheme and any poetic devices employed. Why do you suppose the author put it all in quotation marks? (The copy on emule has no quotes, by the way, Desi, or I would have used that one.) Provide examples, if any, of the devices listed below:

alliteration, consonance, assonance
metaphor
end-stopped lines and/or enjambments
anadiplosis
iambic
trimeter
tetrameter

You may use the following sites for definitions of any unfamiliar terms:

[www.poeticbyway.com] />
[www.the-rathouse.com] />
Post your essay here when finished for corrections and/or suggestions for improvments.


Re: essays
Posted by: m00n (---.qualitynet.net)
Date: July 26, 2005 05:07PM

Hugh Clary Wrote:
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Hmmm ... my mistake, sorry. The 'turnip truck'
idiom means that one thinks his/her audience is
naive and will believe just about any made up
story. We get a lot of posts here where students
are merely looking to have someone else do their
homework for them, I mean. Kuwait, huh? Well, I
will try to do better, and see what I can do to
help.

I will see if I can define a topic, then ask for
an essay and make necessary corrections. I am
thinking that a poetry topic is required, since
this is a poetry forum.

In a 500-word essay, discuss the following poem by
Thomas Hardy:



"Had he and I but met
By some old ancient inn,
We should have sat us down to wet
Right many a nipperkin!

"But ranged as infantry,
And staring face to face,
I shot at him as he at me,
And killed him in his place.

"I shot him dead because--
Because he was my foe,
Just so: my foe of course he was;
That's clear enough; although

"He thought he'd 'list, perhaps,
Off-hand like--just as I--
Was out of work--had sold his traps--
No other reason why.

"Yes; quaint and curious war is!
You shoot a fellow down
You'd treat if met where any bar is,
Or help to half-a-crown."


Include, in your paper, an explication of the
poem's meaning, the meter used (short meter), its
rhyme scheme and any poetic devices employed. Why
do you suppose the author put it all in quotation
marks? (The copy on emule has no quotes, by the
way, Desi, or I would have used that one.) Provide
examples, if any, of the devices listed below:

alliteration, consonance, assonance
metaphor
end-stopped lines and/or enjambments
anadiplosis
iambic
trimeter
tetrameter

You may use the following sites for definitions of
any unfamiliar terms:





Post your essay here when finished for corrections
and/or suggestions for improvments.



sir why u do that with me?, what the matter with u
u wants to insult me by your words
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i ask the one who want to help me u not obliged to do this
it seems u hate kuwait and that reflects to me




Re: essays
Posted by: Linda (---.lns3-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 26, 2005 05:35PM

I don't think Hugh hates Kuwait or is deliberately insulting you. He insults everyone when he feels like it. He mistook you at first for someone too lazy to do their own homework. Now that he realises that you are a genuine student he is willing to help. He has set you a difficult task because he respects your desire to improve. To ask for something too easy for you to do would be an insult to your intelligence.


Re: essays
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.att.net)
Date: July 26, 2005 06:14PM

I need help from you in improving my grammar;
by defining to me a topic to write about ...

Very strange. Isn't that what I did? Perhaps I still do not understand the task at hand.

I certainly do not hate Kuwait or the Kuwaiti people. Along with Bahrain, two of the finest countries in the Middle East.


Re: essays
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.att.net)
Date: July 26, 2005 06:32PM

For those with little faith, stay tuned. I am gonna get myself out of this predicament very shortly, unscathed and with dashing aplomb.


Re: essays
Posted by: Desi (Moderator)
Date: July 26, 2005 06:58PM

I was honestly pretty impressed with Hugh. He put a lot of effort in trying to make it easy for you to find something to write about. I think in this case, an apology is in order, moon.


Re: essays
Posted by: J.H.SUMMERS (---.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com)
Date: July 26, 2005 08:45PM

Hugh,
I believe in you...if anyone can dig himself out of this one you can.

m00n,
I think you misunderstood Hugh's intentions. English can be a difficult language to learn and I for one admire your efforts. Best of luck with your studies.

John



Re: essays
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.att.net)
Date: July 27, 2005 12:17PM

Well, it could be that a 500-word essay should be done on a simpler topic than Hardy's Killed Man. Let's see - say 60 characters to the line, at an average of five letters to the word is 11 words per line, or some 45 lines. Make that about 5-6 lines per paragraph, so call it 6-8 paragraphs.

One paragraph for the introduction of the poem, one section for the poem itself, one paragraph on meter, one for rhyme, one for each poetic device or technique, and one for the conclusion. Omit the poem itself from the word count, but that still seemed to me to be about right for the length required.

However, if that seems excessive to mOOn, something by Emily Dickinson might be better, since hers are consistently shorter. Better yet, go with the Persian master, Omar Khayyám and his Rubáiyát?

[www.therubaiyat.com] />
There are lots of good choices there, but this is one of the most famous:

The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

Again, I would suggest going with an interpretation of Omar's (Fitzgerald's) message, then discussing the meter, rhyme scheme and poetic devices. I can see a metaphor therein, I mean. Alliteration, consonance and assonance as well.

Is this any more acceptable?


Re: essays
Posted by: lg (Moderator)
Date: July 27, 2005 12:40PM

Moon, this is not the proper website for your question.

As the title suggests, we are here to help with questions about poetry.


For help with grammar, go here:

[www.google.com] />

Les


Re: essays
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.att.net)
Date: July 28, 2005 11:31AM

Spoilsport.

Hey, it's summer time! Business is slow, ya know? We can be a little more flexible when homework questions are in the doldrums. And surely a grammar inquiry can be turned to a poetry response? Oh, well, moonie seems to have waned in any case.




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