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if thou must love me
Posted by: than (210.71.174.---)
Date: March 28, 2001 07:35AM

its great try to read about the writings of Elizabeth Barrett Browning............than


Re: if thou must love me
Posted by: Claire Smith (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: May 13, 2005 12:19AM

Hi, i need help comparing and contrasting "If thou must love me" and "How do i love thee". I understand the latter of the two, but i need help on understanding the first one before i can start my paper.


Re: if thou must love me
Posted by: lg (---.dhcp.trlk.ca.charter.com)
Date: May 13, 2005 12:35AM

Let's take a look at the poem:

Sonnet XIV
by Elizabeth Barrett Browning

If thou must love me, let it be for nought
Except for love's sake only. Do not say
'I love her for her smile--her look--her way
Of speaking gently,--for a trick of thought
That falls in well with mine, and certes brought
A sense of pleasant ease on such a day'--
For these things in themselves, Beloved, may
Be changed, or change for thee,--and love, so wrought,
May be unwrought so. Neither love me for
Thine own dear pity's wiping my cheeks dry,--
A creature might forget to weep, who bore
Thy comfort long, and lose thy love thereby !
But love me for love's sake, that evermore
Thou mayst love on, through love's eternity.

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Claire, I'm not sure if I understand what E.B. B. is trying to say here. But it seems to me she is asking her lover to not be PHYSICALLY enamored, but to love being with her; to love her as a person, and not a sex object.


Les


Re: if thou must love me
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-04rh16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: May 13, 2005 10:12AM


Re: if thou must love me
Posted by: Claire Smith (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: May 15, 2005 12:38PM

That's what I thought too--that Browning was telling her lover not to love her for superficial reasons because those things may change, but to love her for the sake of love. However, my teacher told me that Browning is saying something much bigger than that, but would not help me figure out what it is. Does anyone have any idea?


Re: if thou must love me
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.phoenix-01rh15-16rt.az.dial-access.att.net)
Date: May 16, 2005 10:26AM

Dunno, but please report back if you get the answer.

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Re: if thou must love me
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.phoenix-01rh15-16rt.az.dial-access.att.net)
Date: May 16, 2005 10:30AM

Oops. Wrong sonnet, sorry.

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Re: if thou must love me
Posted by: Steph Hulton (168.169.123.---)
Date: May 24, 2005 09:19AM

I need help getting literary elements that are within this poem.




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