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Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Talia (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: January 26, 2005 01:32PM


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 26, 2005 04:16PM

Here you go:

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Les


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Talia (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: January 26, 2005 04:52PM

Thanks! Your a real gem!!


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: January 26, 2005 09:43PM


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Talia (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: January 27, 2005 11:50AM

Thanks, Pam.


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.phoenix-01rh15-16rt.az.dial-access.att.net)
Date: January 27, 2005 12:32PM

Base (new world) Indian or Judas?

[www.shakespeare-online.com] />
[www.anotheramerica.org] />
Would Will have known some tale about an ignorant Indian who threw away a pearl? Not likely, I suspect. Doesn't matter for the interpretation, no.


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: M (---.178.36.204.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net)
Date: February 10, 2005 04:42AM

I love this play. smiling smiley He's basically reflecting on his regret, having thrown Desdemona away for nothing. He's not easily jealous, if you think about it...Well, okay, he is. Maybe he's in denial. But what I think he's getting at is the fact that his jealousy wasn't self-inflicted. There was an obvious outside influence that "perplexed" him. Don't forget the fact that as an African American in that society, he already has quite a bit of pressure put on him to rise to expectations, to not fail. There's so much controversy with his marriage to Desdemona that people LOOK to find a reason to hate him. So I don't think he's EASILY jealous. I think the jealousy was inflicted on him by Iago on top of everything ELSE he has to take from people. So the smallest thing - and he snapped. Under different circumstances (if he was white, and not with such high status), I think he would have been more mellow about it.


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Linda (---.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk)
Date: February 10, 2005 01:05PM

He wasn't an African-American, its even questionable if he was African (very black). He's a Moor,. They were a mixed people from North Africa and Spain, a mixture of Arab and Berber (a white people who predated the Arab inhabitants of the northern coastal areas.) He will have been darker than Elizabethan English people but not significantly darker than the Italians he worked for. He will have been mistrusted for his Muslim or Jewish ancestors, even though he is probably a converso.


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Nancy Charlton (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: February 15, 2005 03:38PM

WS is here grafting two images upon each other: the "Indian" would be the exotic, the strange, the unknown and therefore vaguely evil; and the biblical parable of the pearl of great price. Except here, instead of the man selling all he had to buy it, Othello realizes its (the pearl, Desdemona) value all too late.

Not long ago I needed to verify some Shakespearean usage, and knowing it would be just about anywhere in the plays, I opened a one-volume Shakespeare at random. It happened to be this scene. As many times as I've read it, studied it, seen it, it hit like a ton of bricks. I have never been so emotionally touched as I was on that reading.


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-05rh15-16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: February 16, 2005 11:55AM

I guess you could be right that he refers to Matthew 13:44:

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But why would 'like a base Indian' be the simile then?

Like the base Indian, threw a pearl away

And in the (Christian) Bible passage, the merchant didn't throw the pearl away, but acquired it.


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Talia (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: February 16, 2005 12:29PM

Matthew 7:6 (King James Version)
6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: February 16, 2005 09:57PM

Perhaps Othello didn't read his Bible?

pam


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: February 16, 2005 10:29PM

Othello, might not have, but I'm sure Will did.

Les


Re: Shakespeare's Othello
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: February 17, 2005 06:15PM

But is the character the author?

pam




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