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peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: jennat (---.bpb.bigpond.com)
Date: November 29, 2004 04:19AM

hi, can anyone help me analyse peter skrzynecki's poems: migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home, a drive in the country and post card. pretty plz i need help

thanks


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving ho
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 29, 2004 04:42AM

Jennat, since the poems are under copyright most of us do not have copies of them. Here is a stategy for your analysis however:


Any good essay begins with a plan of attack. The first step would be to make an outline. Here's a sample of the topics you should address:

1. Introduction ( What you think the poems are about.)

2. Meter/Rhyme Scheme

3. Meaning/ Connotation and Denotation

4. Poetic devices, such as symbolism, alliteration, similies, metaphors etc.

5. Summary ( How effective you think the author is in accomplishing his goals poetically.)


Use examples from each poem to illustrate each item on your list. The more specific you are, the easier it is to fulfill any word count requirement.


Les



Post Edited (11-29-04 03:51)


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-03rh15rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: November 29, 2004 11:51AM

Still, if the student would be kind enough to (violate copyright laws and) type them up, I for one would not mind reading them and responding.


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: ccc (---.cpe.unwired.net.au)
Date: December 02, 2004 02:35AM

i also need help on analysing this poem. so if anyone out there that has some ides could you please help. i need it as soon as possible please. i have an assignment that is due on the 6th!!!!Hugh Clary wrote:


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: fc (61.68.12.---)
Date: December 02, 2004 07:25AM

i have a speech due on the 6th as i am typing this, i know it's a waste of time but oh well.
This is one of the poems Jennat was querying about Les and Hugh Clary.

MIGRANT HOSTEL - by Peter Skryznecki

no one kept count
of all the comings and goings-
arrivals of newcomers
in busloads from the station,
sudden departures from adjoining blocks
that left us wondering
who would be coming next.

nationalities sought
each other out instinctively -
like a homing pigeon
circling to get its bearings;
years and place-names
recognised by accents,
partitioned off at night
by memories of hunger and hate.

for over two years
we lived like birds of passage -
always sensing a change
in the weather:
unaware of the season
whose tracks we would follow.

a barrier at the main gate
sealed off the highway
from our doorstep -
as it rose and fell like a finger
pointed in reprimand or shame;
and daily we passed
underneath or alongside it -
needing its sanction
to pass in and out of lives
that had only begun
or were dying.


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: fc (61.68.12.---)
Date: December 02, 2004 07:36AM

btw, this is unexpected i'm sure but, anyone know a good (not dissimilar to the quality of discussion forums here) Mathematics discussion forum out there on the www???
preferably HSC???

i'm sure a lot of you here would do maths as well as english...


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-05rh15-16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: December 02, 2004 12:33PM

Thanks for typing that up. Here are your math groups:

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Birds of passage is from Longfellow?

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See also,

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Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: December 02, 2004 01:45PM

I'm not sure what you're looking for, fc, but what I see is this.

The immigrants are unwanted- no one cares who comes or goes. They're sticking together with others from their country- they're not trying to reach out. The 'barrier' of the last stanza is one set by the immigrants themselves. They're not locked in their migrant hostel, but see themselves as being so.

pam


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: Final Fantasy (---.artrmn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
Date: December 26, 2004 05:53AM

Author: fc (61.68.12.---)
Date: 12-02-04 06:36

btw, this is unexpected i'm sure but, anyone know a good (not dissimilar to the quality of discussion forums here) Mathematics discussion forum out there on the www???
preferably HSC???

i'm sure a lot of you here would do maths as well as english...

www.boredofstudies.org/community
all topics there=P
and it's a lot more active


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: Jas (---.221.220.203.acc01-macq-tar.comindico.com)
Date: January 21, 2005 08:23PM

hello i am trying to look for any of peter poems to do a booklet before school goes back for and assignment so far i am found 2 and i need a far lot more also if anyone else has any info on physical journey stories please let me know as i need to find at least 10 artciles on physical journeys for anther assignment thanks


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: Dan (---.dialup.optusnet.com.au)
Date: February 23, 2005 03:54AM

Okay, this is an analysis of the poetic devices and techniques used in this poem - these are some things that we have analysed at school. This is also a text often used in Australian NSW HSC course.


"No one kept count
Of all the comings and goings-"
-- business like, uncaring, impersonal. It's described like a prison camp.

"Arrivals of the newcomers
In busloads from the station,"
-- they come in multitudes, it happened to lots of other people, not just them.

"That left us wondering"
-- "us" is personalised

"Like a homing pigeon
Circling to get its bearings"
-- simile shows the lostness and uncertainty of them. They are homeless

"For over two years we lived like birds of passage"
Alliter: negative, emphasis tone, bird image used again.

"Always sensing a change in the weather"
-- The weather is a metaphor for the all-powerful, and random, impersonal bureacrocy that is controlling them.

"A barrier at the main gate"
-- boom gate (would be ex-military camp)

"Sealed off the hihway"
-- 'highway' symbolises freedom, new life, etc. But they are unable to reach it.

There are many prison images mentioned throughout the poem, and mention of the bureacracy.

"Or were dying"
-- the last line, negative word to end on, emphasises the negative tone of the poem.

In the poem, their Polish lives are dying and their Australian lives are beginning.

This is a good poem - I recommend you also read "Crossing the Red Sea" by Peter Skrzynecki - there is quite a lot to analyse in this poem, many great techniques and devices.

Hope it could help


leaving home, immigrnats at central station.
Posted by: sarah. s (---.prem.tmns.net.au)
Date: March 10, 2005 04:54AM

hey guys, got an assessment coming up and would really appreciate some help with these poems. i have heaps for crossing the red sea, but need some help with these two... thanks


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: sasa (---.uninet.net.id)
Date: March 22, 2005 09:57AM

The poem “Migrant Hostel” by Peter Skrzynecki, depicts his immigration experience and presented in a very personal tone. The Migrant Hostel itself is chosen as title to emphasize his strong emotion and feeling about that memorical place.


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving home
Posted by: n/a (---.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
Date: April 05, 2005 07:05AM

This poem is an extended metaphor for borring analysis. which we have to do for our Hsc. Well done board of studies


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving ho
Posted by: scott skrynecki (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: April 09, 2005 01:43PM

I am trying to reach Peter, he seems to be a distant relative. Does anyone have a link to his web site? If so, please email it to me at scottskrynecki@hotmail.com


Re: peter skrzynecki - Migrant hostel, immigrants at central station, leaving ho
Posted by: Desi (---.adsl.proxad.net)
Date: April 09, 2005 04:17PM

his website:
[www.users.bigpond.com] />
his email address:
[www.users.bigpond.com]




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