No One Wants to Ask
How many people did the Christians
kill today?
How many people did the Jews
kill today?
How many people
did the Muslims kill today?
How many people did the Hindus
kill today?
How many people did the Buddhists
kill today?
Look in the morning papers.
That will get you facts
you might not want to know.
This was the mantra
running through my head
before the call.
I am so sick of religious people.
I never ask these questions out loud. Too many hornets' nests. This is a topic I have considered since 1962, so I have been through some of the arguments on many many sides of the question with no real answer. Sorry to release my rant on you all.
It is just the feeling I have after throwing up on myself.
Watching the news.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/2013 05:22PM by petersz.
Good one Pete. In my mind the reason for religions wars is that it gives the participants a feeling of reason in the face of insanity. Only wars of nationalism have killed more people than wars of religion.
Les
Betcha the Buddists number is lower than most.
How many people did drunks
kill today?
How many people did athiests
Kill today?
Not a one way street Dr.Pete.
Other side of the coin,
How many lives did missionaries save today?
It's a hard question.
I am a religious person Dr.Pete,, are you sick of me? Or are you blaming the wrong thing?
Sounds like you guys need a referee. I recommend this guy:
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Les
p.s. He's always right.
merc,
I know if I am blaming anyone at all, I am probably in the wrong on that...
still, I have been a spiritual person all my life, and have lived among the religious for much of that,...their claims do something to my stomach that I cannot undo with my reason or my beliefs...and I know first hand the kinds of hypocrisy I am prone to...still, I never deny my gut, even when mind and thought and reason and faith and evidence...including the hundreds of good people of all religions I have known prove they are just as good or evil as I might be on my best and worst days.
The poem is a gut reaction.
You can take it for that.
amo et avanti,
Peter
btw,
I some of my best vegetarian meals at the local Zen temple where they are comfortable to not try to convert an old time Taoist.
I told a vegan friend of Carol's once, when she wouldn't shut up about it that my favorite meal was venison that I had killed. She did in fact shut up.
Date: March 26, 2013 08:19PM
merc,
My father-in-law used to teach the young men in his village how to handle a gun and how to hunt. He regularly fed his family on the meat...rabbit, deer, whatever he could get...he had brought home with him from the woods. When he got old, he would take me out to see the lanes the deer would use, and we would get to sit together for hours...sometimes seeing the deer pass, sometimes, not...as when he would light his pipe up to keep them away. They knew him and he knew them. One of the finest people I have ever known.
Myself, I am an omnivore, except my heart doctor won't let me eat any meat but chicken. I distrust most vegetarians, except my oldest daughter's friends, who often make decisions I might not make for myself.
The folks at the Zen Center are kind to me. They know I am just an old poet from whom they do not have to fear challenge or too harsh a judgment.
I tend to distrust Buddhism more than I do Buddhists, but even on that, no one has to live their lives by my standards except me...especially since those who know me know that I have been an anarchist since before I knew the word could ever apply to me.
But again, among my contradictions is my distrust of vegans, despite my reverence for all life. I could never be a Jain, though I could never imagine a Jain killing anyone based on the tranquil Jains I've met, which is evidence of how naive I remain after 68 years.
Sorry to talk your ear off.
My girlfriend notes that two of my 'faults' are that I talk too much and I focus too much on myself.
amo et avanti,
Peter
Peter
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2013 12:24AM by petersz.