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Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Jean-Paul (---.nt.net)
Date: April 13, 2005 10:25PM

Bill would guarantee visits for grandparents

Last Updated Apr 13 2005 03:34 PM EDT
CBC News

TORONTO Grandparents would be guaranteed access to the children of divorce under terms of legislation introduced Wednesday by a Liberal backbencher.

In a private member's bill, Niagara Falls MPP Kim Craitor proposed changes to the Children's Law Reform Act that would recognize the rights of grandparents to have access to their grandchildren no matter which parent has custody.

"Let me tell you, in many cases the children were used as weapons, first in custody [battles], and then denied access to their grandparents," Craitor said.

"Nobody should have the right to deny children the love they deserve."

Craitor's bill would make it illegal for parents to block access by grandparents to their grandchildren.

New Brunswick, Quebec, Alberta and British Columbia currently have laws to protect grandparents' rights.


Who wants to move here?

"I "Love Summer more than I hate Winter"


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Desi (---.adsl.proxad.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 05:55AM

and where is the poem?


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Jean-Paul (---.nt.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 08:10AM

Oh! I'm sorry. Did you make a new rule that every post has to be a poem?
Maybe I should have just posted this on a friv?
This is a topic that inspires strong feelings in many people and I thought it may prompt a poem or two. If it doesn't, this thread will die soon enough.

"I "Love Summer more than I hate Winter"


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Jean-Paul (---.nt.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 08:12AM

I sorry if I sounded rude. That isn't my intention.
I thought it was an interesting topic.
Lot's of heartache over this for some.

"I "Love Summer more than I hate Winter"


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Desi (---.adsl.proxad.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 08:20AM

well, we tend to stick to poetry, as it is a poetry forum and all, but put as a challenge to write poetry on the subject, well, why not?

Personally, I never even received a birthday card from my grandparents on my fathers side, so I can't be bothered with the subject.


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Jean-Paul (---.nt.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 08:24AM

I encourage my parents to love my estranged step-son.
He will always be a part of my family, in my eyes.
I know I should write about it and I do, but I can hardly complete a series of connected thoughts without appearing negative about this subject.
I'll try again though.



Post Edited (04-14-05 07:25)

"I "Love Summer more than I hate Winter"


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 09:40AM

Beware Creeping Fascism


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Desi (---.adsl.proxad.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 10:13AM

too late!

By the way, Johnny, sincere apologies for the sensorship. I didn't realise the whole thread would disappear. Am still new to this! Won't happen again...


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Talia (---.253.117.22.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 12:04PM

Since we've allowed ourselves to talk about something other than poetry on this thread, and since jean-Paul seems interested in the subject, let me say that I think the whole law is a dumb idea. The government should stay out of people's lives and let them raise their own children. And leave it to Canada to be the first to create such a law.


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Jean-Paul (209.226.48.---)
Date: April 14, 2005 12:14PM

I reject any political view on the subject.
I am merely interested in voicing how distressed I am over the social and psychological impact that results from separating a child from his/ her grandparents, intentional or otherwise.
The is a very real lack of natural affection in today's society.
I, for one, value the parental experience that a grandparent can display.

"I "Love Summer more than I hate Winter"


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 01:25PM

Thanks Desi

My concern was that she is a real person, and had indeed responded on User Submitted to at least one poem

As absurd as her postings are, I don't feel they should be banned unless there is cursing or abuse


cherrytree
Posted by: Desi (---.adsl.proxad.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 01:58PM

I do not remove real responses, because where would I end? No forum left :-)

But I don't want to leave anything paranoia here. There is enough of that around. And surely not when it aims directly at for example russia. I don't want to frighten off russian poetry lovers.

What do the rest of you think?


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 02:57PM

Desi, yes, I will support your decision, falling as it would under the category of derogatory remarks based on ethnic origin.

Can I still call my Canadian friends a bunch of Puck-Slapping Maple Syrup Swillers? smiling smiley

I do not envy your position.


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Jean-Paul (209.226.48.---)
Date: April 14, 2005 03:52PM

Doesn't bother me ay!

"I "Love Summer more than I hate Winter"


Re: Visiting rights for Grandparents
Posted by: Desi (---.adsl.proxad.net)
Date: April 14, 2005 04:40PM

Johnny,

only if you explain me why.

Puck-Slapping Maple Syrup Swillers?




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