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The Five Clocks
Posted by: drpeternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2004 01:24AM

I read a book about thirty years ago about the difference between written English and spoke English. It talked about something called the key you speech in and the register you write in. It analyzed writing and speech into five groups marked from the most formal writing to the least formal writing and from the most formal speech to the least formal speech. I think the name of that book was "The Five Clocks. I do not remember the author. I think it would help any poet read and write his or her writing and oral poetry. Has anyone seen it around?

Peter


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 17, 2004 01:52AM

Peter, you can buy it used for $3.95 here:

[bookwormer.com] />

A discussion of Joos' main points is included here:

[www.bris.ac.uk] />


Les


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: drpeternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2004 02:29AM

Les,

I am so grateful to you and Hugh Clary and Johnny SansCulo for the diligence you each show in finding all kinds of useful and enjoyable material on the internet for us neophytes.

Peter


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 17, 2004 02:46AM

Peter, there used to be an advertising slogan back in the 60's which said:
"Thank God and Greyhound", now that saying could be: "Thank God and Google".

I enjoy searching the net and as I once told MarianNYC: The sidetracks are more interesting than the trip itself.

[www.google.com] />

Les


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: drpeternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2004 06:05AM

sounds like going to the library and loking through the card catalogue


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 17, 2004 11:49AM

Nahh, it's more like having a Genie to which you say take me to "Zanzibar" and it takes you there.

[www.allaboutzanzibar.com] />

Les


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: November 17, 2004 01:23PM

The trick is in learning to refine what you mean when you say 'Zanzibar.' That's something that comes with experience- '10 million results? Time to refine my query!'

pam


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: drpeternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2004 01:31PM

That's what I always have trouble with with it. Even Boolean Logic doesn't always do the trick.


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: November 17, 2004 01:56PM

Peter, for some reason, I seem to have either good luck or a particular knack with google.....I don't know if I can impart this, it's more like an instinct than a learned behavior.

and the side trips are fascinating...while verifying that Julie Adams starred in Creature from the Black Lagoon, I found that she was on the Sgt Pepper cover, something I NEVER came across til now !


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 17, 2004 01:59PM

Peter, I guess I think like them, I rarely have to look past the first 3 pages of results to find something relevant.

Google does have its quirks however. In searching for this quote:
" what did you do for freedom today? " Google leaves out the words "what" and "for". Which makes the whole question meaningless.

But, overall, it's as Pam says. You learn how to phrase things and a few tricks of your own. After about 10,000 searches or so you get the hang of it. It's not as hard as golf, or the violin.

Les


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: chuckl (---.mn.client2.attbi.com)
Date: November 17, 2004 02:47PM

Les,this is not a criticism. I believe that Roy Clark sang a song called Thank God and Greyhound,but I don't recall it being an advertising slogan for them. I rely on my memory of 42 years of broadcasting. For the same reason,that memory isn't as reliable as it once was.
Chuckl


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: Pam Adams (134.71.192.---)
Date: November 17, 2004 03:08PM

THANK GOD AND GREYHOUND
Roy Clark


I've made a small fortune, and you've squandered it all.
You've shamed me till I feel about one inch tall.
But I thought I loved you, and I hoped you would change,
so I gritted my teeth and didn't complain.

Now you've come to me with a simple goodbye.
You tell me you're leaving, but you won't tell me why.
We're here at the station and you're getting on.
And all I can think of is.........

Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!

Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!
I didn't know how much longer I could go on,
watching you take the respect out of me,
watching you make a total wreck out of me.
That big diesel motor is a playing my song.

Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!

Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!
That load on my mind got lighter when you got on.
That shiney old bus is a beautiful sight,
with the black smoke rolling up around the tail lights.
It may sound kinda cruel, but I've been silent too long:

Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!

Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 17, 2004 03:18PM

Chuck, you're probably right. I wonder where Roy got it?

Les


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: drpeternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2004 04:52PM

You know how to play golf on the violin? Incredible. Play us a few bars of the 19th Hole Overture.

Peter:->



Post Edited (11-17-04 23:24)


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: drpeternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2004 08:17PM

Well, there it is, we've got off track so soon. Can I take your Roy calrk to help show myself haow to tell if the line I just write sounnds like it should be written to a high class Englishman ofthe 17th Century or as a part of a new lyrics as sung by Cyndi Louper?


:-)

I'd a thought we'd a got to the Five Keys by now rahter than to Mr. Clark's vocalizations. They had soul.

Peter



Post Edited (11-17-04 19:19)


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 17, 2004 09:03PM

Peter, I play the violin about as well as I golf. But according to this website, it should be pretty easy to pick up.

[www.brainyencyclopedia.com] />

Les


Re: The Five Clocks
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-04rh16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: November 18, 2004 11:36AM

" what did you do for freedom today? " Google leaves out the words "what" and "for".

Huh?

[tinyurl.com] />
See also Google's Advanced Search to better isolate the queries.

[www.google.com] />
[www.google.com]




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