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Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: October 20, 2004 03:57PM


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:04PM

Great Johnny, now I can look up the lyrics to Blues for Allah without having to google all over the place.

Les


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.phoenix-01rh15-16rt.az.dial-access.att.net)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:21PM

Speaking of the dead, I'm starting to muse about Halloween poems. I'm thinking no one yet has done anything with 'lycanthropy' (for a lim) or 'lycanthrope' for a double d.

Maybe lycanthrope - chickenthrope for a cowardly werewolf dd, or lycanthropy, misanthropy, philanthropy for the 1,2,5 lines of the limerick.

What else? Suggestions appreciated, and I've got some 10 days before the, erm, deadline for a change.


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:32PM

These are as close as I could come, Hugh:

[www.angelfire.com] />
[www.kerwoodwolf.com] />

Les


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Linda (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:34PM

By the way, what are the origins of all this halloween stuff. It seems to have crept up on me over the last twenty years. Before that we only had Guy Fawkes.


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:35PM

It's another American import. Could be worse, we could have sent you more fast food chains.

pam


Miracles in the Snow
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:36PM

Good graphics on this one:

[www.angelfire.com] />

Les


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:41PM

By the way, what are the origins of all this halloween stuff.

It was originally a religious holiday, all Souls' Day, the eve of All Saints Day 11/1

The name Halloween comes from the abbreviation of All Hallow's Evening. Of course we Americans have commercialized the giving of alms to the poor and collecting for the needy into candy gathering by children and their parents and dressing like "ghosts" and goblins.

Les


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:48PM


Characters in MEASURE FOR MEASURE refer to the dates thus:

POMPEY Sir, but you shall come to it, by your honour's
leave. And, I beseech you, look into Master Froth
here, sir; a man of four-score pound a year; whose
father died at Hallowmas: was't not at Hallowmas,
Master Froth?

FROTH All-hallond eve.

=======================

Where and when my grandfather was a boy (Marshfield, Wisconsin, in just after the turn of the 20th century), GOOD children stayed home on Halloween and only BAD children went out and committed vandalisms and made nuisances of themselves.


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: October 20, 2004 04:50PM

It's the annotations I really found intriguing


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 20, 2004 07:27PM

Which leads us, gleefully, to:

"Summer is y-comen in,
Loude sing, cuckoo!
Groweth seed and bloweth meed
And spring'th the woode now--
Sing cuckoo!
Ewe bleateth after lamb,
Low'th after calfe cow;
Bullock starteth, bucke farteth.
Merry sing, cuckoo!

Cuckoo, Cuckoo!
Well sing'st thou, cuckoo:
Ne swike thou never now!

Sing cuckoo, now! Sing, cuckoo!


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Linda (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 20, 2004 07:41PM

All Souls is the day after All Saints (Hallowmas). So how do we get from the first mass of all the saints (who don't have a separate day of their own) to witches and goblins? Our local churches are trying to reclaim the evening for the saints and light.


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: October 20, 2004 08:29PM

In Mexico, and parts of the US Southwest, La Dia de los Muertos, The Day of the Dead is celebrated. The souls are the spirits of the dead, and are therefore ghosts. (Candy skulls, yum!)
[www.mexconnect.com] />
pam


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 20, 2004 08:59PM

Linda, read the Wikipedia account of trick or treating at this website:

[en.wikipedia.org] />

All Souls is the day after All Saints (Hallowmas)

Sorry about that Linda, I got ahead of myself there I guess. Typical of me.



Les



Post Edited (10-20-04 20:28)


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 20, 2004 11:28PM

Johnnie,

This is a greatfully accepted site even if your not a deadhead.

Peter


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 21, 2004 12:57AM

The full moon is making me zany
growing hair on my arms legs and brainy
i feel like a dope
i can lie but can't thrope
like the flabulous junior lon chaney



Post Edited (10-21-04 12:16)


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-01rh15-16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: October 21, 2004 12:40PM

Ah, another thread successfully hijacked - how satisfying!

Turns out the pronunciation is LIEkenthrope, not LICKenthrope, bad news for the cowardly dactyl. Rhymes for lycanthrope seem to be lacking, unless something like bikin' is used. Unattractive doncha know. Especially disappointing since pusillanimity is waiting anxiously right there to be line six, sigh.

So, a limerick it must be. What about lines 3 & 4, though? Loup-garou (or even the plural loups-garous, with the same pronunciation) is tempting, since the accent can be on the last syllable, but suffers from the same malady as lycanthropy - readers may very well be unfamiliar with the term.


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: October 21, 2004 01:39PM

Perhaps the middle lines could refer to famous werewolves or werewolf movies- he takes people to Werewolf of London to show his philanthropy?

pam


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 21, 2004 01:43PM

The obligatory Warren Zevon lyrics:

I saw a werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand
Walking through the streets of Soho in the rain
He was looking for a place called Lee Ho Fook's
Going to get himself a big dish of beef chow mein
Werewolves of London

If you hear him howling around your kitchen door
Better not let him in
Little old lady got mutilated late last night
Werewolves of London again
Werewolves of London

He's the hairy-handed gent who ran amuck in Kent
Lately he's been overheard in Mayfair
Better stay away from him
He'll rip your lungs out, Jim
I'd like to meet his tailor
Werewolves of London

Well, I saw Lon Chaney walking with the Queen
Doing the
I saw Lon Chaney, Jr. walking with the Queen
Doing the
I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's
His hair was perfect
Werewolves of London
Draw blood


Les


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 21, 2004 03:19PM

What a long , strange trip it's been, brother turtle.


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: October 21, 2004 03:41PM

Even a man who is pure at heart
And says his prayers by night
May become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms
And the autumn moon is bright.

NOT Maria Ouspenskaya !


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Pam Adams (---.bus.csupomona.edu)
Date: October 21, 2004 04:19PM

By the way, I can highly recommend Poul Anderson's novel, Operation Chaos. It starts off with a werewolf in the army, who in his civilian plays Rin Tin Tin and Silver Chief in the movies.

pam

The sequel Operation Luna is also good.


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Linda (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 21, 2004 04:53PM

Thanks for the link. I come from the part of England that lost Halloween completely and only bothered with Guy Fawkes. Our demand was not "trick or treat" but "penny for the guy"


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: October 21, 2004 05:03PM

Not all who wander are lost, Brother Hare


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 21, 2004 09:53PM

Here you go Hugh, more Dead:

Dire Wolf
Grateful Dead

In the timbers of Fennario
the wolves are running round
The winter was so hard and cold
froze ten feet neath the ground

Don't murder me
I beg of you don't murder me
Please
don't murder me

I sat down to my supper
T'was a bottle of red whiskey
I said my prayers and went to bed
That's the last they saw of me

Don't murder me
I beg of you don't murder me
Please
don't murder me

When I awoke, the Dire Wolf
Six hundred pounds of sin
Was grinnin at my window
All I said was "come on in"

Don't murder me
I beg of you don't murder me
Please
don't murder me

The wolf came in, I got my cards
We sat down for a game
I cut my deck to the Queen of Spades
but the cards were all the same

Don't murder me
I beg of you don't murder me
Please
don't murder me

In the backwash of Fennario
The black and bloody mire
The Dire Wolf collects his due
while the boys sing round the fire

Don't murder me
I beg of you don't murder me
Please
don't murder me

[www.gdlive.com] />

Les



Post Edited (10-21-04 21:23)


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 21, 2004 10:01PM

Here you go Hugh, put this in your pipe and smoke it:

[www.gdlive.com] />
As you might guess/dread there's more where this came from here:

[www.gdlive.com] />

Les



Post Edited (10-21-04 21:13)


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 21, 2004 11:44PM

Holy Garcia, Batman !

well, this will keep me bizzy for a while while while !


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-05rh15-16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: October 22, 2004 11:53AM

I've had some Cherry Garcia ice cream from Ben & Jerry's - does that qualify me as a fan? I had to give it up after one pint, though, having read on the label that there are 17 grams of fat in each spoonful.

Returning to my interest in following this thread, however, it occurs to me that 'anthony" might very well be an acceptable rhyme for lycanthropy. True or false?


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: October 22, 2004 12:07PM

Hugh, acceptable by whose standards? Certainly not your own?


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 22, 2004 12:09PM

Anthony, and lycanthropy---

Sounds to me like trying to match honey and poppy, but if you say so.


Les


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: October 22, 2004 12:20PM

It's FINE with me, people can rhyme whatever the hell they want, but Hugh questions performance/chance and morning/agreeing, and then proposes ANTHONY ? Good Gosh !


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-05rh15-16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: October 22, 2004 02:28PM

Humph.


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: October 22, 2004 02:30PM

Bumph


Re: Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics Site
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 23, 2004 01:54AM

Masterpiece:

[www.gdlive.com] />

Les




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