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The Tree
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 17, 2004 04:38PM

THE TREE

I STOOD still and was a tree amid the wood,
Knowing the truth of things unseen before;
Of Daphne and the laurel bow
And that god-feasting couple old
That grew elm-oak amid the wold.
'Twis not until the gods had been
Kindly entreated, and been brought within
Unto the hearth of their heart's home
That they might do this wonder thing;
Nathless I have been a tree amid the wood
And many a new thing understood
That was rank folly to my head before.

Ezra Pound

Have you ever been what you are not?


Re: The Tree
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: October 17, 2004 04:55PM

Peter, I have often felt that the word "understand" means to "stand under" the tree of knowledge. That tree may be allegorical, the forest might be mankind and the tree might be one in a multitude. Knowledge is not singular in my opinion, it is only one tree in a forest of understanding.

There are many ways to see the world, our viewpoint at a moment in time may differ from our true essence, but I doubt whether we are ever apart from the essence of our being.


Les


Re: The Tree
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 18, 2004 02:05AM

Les,

I took in every word you had to say on understanding here. I must say that it is the instances when someone takes that time to make such thoughtful comments that attracted me to and keeps me coming back to this forum. So many souls with something worthwhile to share, poems and thoughts.

Thanks,

Peter


Re: The Tree
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: October 18, 2004 09:54AM

what a tree understands is duration


Re: The Tree
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: October 18, 2004 05:13PM


I understand the reference to Daphne, who (in myth) was transformed into a laurel tree.

I don't know who the "god-feasting couple old / That grew elm-oak amid the wold" were.

Help, anybody?


Re: The Tree
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 18, 2004 05:29PM

Baucis and Philomen, an old couple whom Zeus rewarded for their kindness by changing them into intertwining trees upon their death (Ovid, Metamorphoies, I, VII), cited in Christine Froula, A Guide to Ezra Pound's Selected Poems, p. 22.


Re: The Tree
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 18, 2004 05:37PM

Or Baucis and Philomon "were metamorphosed into trees after unwittingly entertaining the gods." K.K. Routhven, A Guide to Ezra Pound's Personae (1926), p.242. a very different interpretation of the same use of the same myth.


Re: The Tree
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-03rh16rt-04rh15rt.co.dial-access.att.ne)
Date: October 18, 2004 07:49PM

Here is an odd post with some words changed:

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I'm guessing EP used ancient language because of the ancient references?

Nathless, 'twas, wold and the like, I mean.


Re: The Tree
Posted by: Pamela (134.71.192.---)
Date: October 18, 2004 08:22PM

When I was a child, I was a dog named Jet.

pam


Re: The Tree
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 18, 2004 11:13PM

Hugh,

That was his strategy thoughout his "Personae"

Peter


Re: The Tree
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 18, 2004 11:15PM

Pam,

preetty ruff, huh?


Re: The Tree
Posted by: K.Q. (---.hs.14.118.212.in-addr.arpa)
Date: October 19, 2004 09:33AM

I can think of the tree as the concept of a god and the wood a universe. I love Les's handling of it!


Re: The Tree
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: October 19, 2004 08:53PM

I'd like to think of an Oak
leaving the back yard
into yeallow and red Autumn.

Peter




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