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Question about Shakespear
Posted by: bvpp (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date: August 21, 2004 12:33PM

Which is the correct name : Shakespear or Shakespeare ?

Thanks


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: Linda (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: August 21, 2004 01:17PM

Does it matter? Shakespear wasn't sure either. Spelling hadn't been fixed in those days, not in English anyway, maybe in Latin.


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: lg (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: August 21, 2004 02:07PM

Shakespeare is the commonly accepted spelling in the U.S.

Who fixes the spelling of a given word, especially when the name is seen spelled differently by the person themselves, is open to debate. A few words keep up dual spellings, and then there are those which have dialectic differences, such as color/colour.

Les


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: RJAllen (---.creation-net.co.uk)
Date: August 21, 2004 02:10PM

...or Shakspeare or Shakspear or Shagspear or Shagsper or Shaksper or Shakspere or...
I think there were over forty Elizabethan spellings, so make your choice.


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: lg (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: August 21, 2004 02:45PM

Google shows 192,000 references to Shakespear, 6.4 million for Shakespeare.

Les


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-03rh16rt-04rh15rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: August 21, 2004 03:18PM

I think there were over forty Elizabethan spellings, so make your choice

And almost as many ways he spelled it himself!


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: August 21, 2004 06:42PM

Les,

Historically, in the US, it was the 19th Century New England Dictionarians, Like Webster, etc. They also set the order of dialectical pronunciations, their own coming first, surprisingly.



Peter


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: August 21, 2004 06:44PM

Good for Google. Go. Google. Go. We wouldn't, no reflection of you les, let anything but the most popular be right.

Peter :-)


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: lg (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: August 21, 2004 11:04PM

Not in a democracy, Peter. In Cuba, I'm sure it's different.

Les


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: August 22, 2004 12:24AM

Don't you know this is a Banana Republic, anyway.

I ain't putin my name up for a vote. If I did, it'd be Pretre M. Shasdhuzonifa, Or Pete Sim, leave the democracy at your polling booth. so there, Na na nana na na. {did I spell that rightly}:-)((:-()


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: August 22, 2004 04:12AM

Don't you know this is a Banana Republic, anyway.

I ain't putin my name up for a vote. If I did, it'd be Pretre M. Shasdhuzonifa, Or Pete Sim, leave the democracy at your polling booth. so there, Na na nana na na. {did I spell that rightly}(:-(:-)


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: Henry (213.78.109.---)
Date: August 22, 2004 01:10PM

The Independent on Sunday today lists 12 spellings for Shakespeare recorded before 1616, the year of his death.

It appears that in the 18th century his name was habitually written Shakespeare, although, if my memory is correct, not one of his surviving signatures is written that way.

I found the article about the Shakespeare memorial at [www.dlroper.shakespearians.com]
very interesting.


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 22, 2004 01:36PM

I vote for Wiggleweapon


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: August 22, 2004 02:24PM

You ole snake charmer, you.


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: August 22, 2004 04:41PM

more than three shakes and you're playing with it


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: marian2 (---.range81-152.btcentralplus.com)
Date: August 23, 2004 04:31AM

My grandfather's Shakspeare's Poetical works consistently spells his name as I just typed it. The edition (Titled 'The Works of William Shakspeare carefully edited from the best works' on the title page - Shakspeare's Poetical Works being on the spine and outside cover - and published by R E King & Co Ltd ,106-110 Tabernacle Street EC (ie London) would have been a readily available one (nothing special - cheap paper, small type, but well produced in that I haven't noticed any typos) - it was probably a standard edition used fbyschools and for school and Sunday school prizes etc. Since he lived 1879-1951 (the edition is not dated) it appears that even by the 19th century, the spelling had not become consistent. I didn't even notice it wasn't spelt Shakespeare until last year, and I've had it 30 years!

Can anyone remind me when books started to be dated as a matter of course, please - I heard somewhere that if there is no date, it is likely the book was produced between certain dates, but I can't remember the details.


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: IanB (---.tnt11.mel1.da.uu.net)
Date: August 23, 2004 11:29AM

In the 46th psalm in the King James Bible, the 46th word from the beginning is 'shake' and the 46th word from the end is 'spear'. Some believe this was WS's covert way of letting posterity know he had a hand in preparing the King James translation. I understand there's no direct evidence he was consulted by those responsible for its preparation, but it would have been be surprising if he was not, when he was one of the most famous writers in England. If he did 'sign' the 46th psalm in that way, it suggests he chose to spell his name Shakespear. Of course he might just have been punning.


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: peternsz (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: August 23, 2004 11:32AM

Don't you just love numerology, though.


Re: Question about Shakespear
Posted by: Johnny SansCulo (---.nycmny83.covad.net)
Date: August 23, 2004 11:49AM

NOT TOO SURE 'BOUT 46, but here's someting on the significance of 42

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