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Necessity of procreation
Posted by: jaime (---.ftl.fdn.com)
Date: December 14, 2003 11:50AM

hey -- does anyone know an author outside of Shakespeare who discusses the necessity ofprocreation in poetry?
Thanks - jaime


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: Ellen (213.40.3.---)
Date: December 14, 2003 06:05PM


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: RJAllen (193.114.111.---)
Date: December 15, 2003 12:32PM

See T.S.Eliot's Sweeney Agonistes:

Birth and copulation and death.
That's all. That's all. That' all.
That's all the facts when you come to brass tacks:
Birth and copulation and death.


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: -Les- (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: December 15, 2003 04:02PM

Anne Bradstreet's "In Reference to Her Children..." hints at that:

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Les


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: -Les- (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: December 15, 2003 04:08PM

Here's another one by Henry Lawson which might apply:

WhenTthe Children Come Home
by Henry Lawson


On a lonely selection far out in the West
An old woman works all the day without rest,
And she croons, as she toils 'neath the sky's glassy dome,
Sure I'll keep the ould place till the childer come home.'<br /> <br /> She mends all the fences, she grubs, and she ploughs,<br /> She drives the old horse and she milks all the cows,<br /> And she sings to herself as she thatches the stack,<br /> Sure I'll keep the ould place till the childer come back.'

It is five weary years since her old husband died;
And oft as he lay on his deathbed he sighed
Sure one man can bring up ten children, he can,<br /> An' it's strange that ten sons cannot keep one old man.'<br /> <br /> Whenever the scowling old sundowners come,<br /> And cunningly ask if the master's at home,<br /> Be off,' she replies, with your blarney and cant,<br /> Or I'll call my son Andy; he's workin' beyant.'<br /> <br /> Git out,' she replies, though she trembles with fear,
For she lives all alone and no neighbours are near;
But she says to herself, when she's like to despond,
That the boys are at work in the paddock beyond.

Ah, none of her children need follow the plough,
And some have grown rich in the city ere now;
Yet she says: `They might come when the shearing is done,
And I'll keep the ould place if it's only for one.'

Les


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: -Les- (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: December 15, 2003 04:10PM

This last one is more in keeping with your theme:

Children
by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

Come to me, O ye children!
For I hear you at your play,
And the questions that perplexed me
Have vanished quite away.

Ye open the eastern windows,
That look towards the sun,
Where thoughts are singing swallows
And the brooks of morning run.

In your hearts are the birds and the sunshine,
In your thoughts the brooklet's flow,
But in mine is the wind of Autumn
And the first fall of the snow.

Ah! what would the world be to us
If the children were no more?
We should dread the desert behind us
Worse than the dark before.

What the leaves are to the forest,
With light and air for food,
Ere their sweet and tender juices
Have been hardened into wood, --

That to the world are children;
Through them it feels the glow
Of a brighter and sunnier climate
Than reaches the trunks below.

Come to me, O ye children!
And whisper in my ear
What the birds and the winds are singing
In your sunny atmosphere.

For what are all our contrivings,
And the wisdom of our books,
When compared with your caresses,
And the gladness of your looks?

Ye are better than all the ballads
That ever were sung or said;
For ye are living poems,
And all the rest are dead.

Les


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: December 15, 2003 04:13PM


From a very different angle, look up a poem called "The Sheep Child," by James Dickey.

I was about to say you won't find it on line... but actually you will:

[www.theatlantic.com] />
WARNING: VERY DISTURBING IMAGES IN THIS POEM.


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: Pam Adams (134.71.192.---)
Date: December 15, 2003 05:53PM

I think this one is about why one shouldn't bother to have children!

pam


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: rikki (---.mas.optusnet.com.au)
Date: December 15, 2003 06:10PM

There is also "Imperial Adam" by A.D.Hope, about how it all began. Of course, in typical Hope style it depicts woman as the wicked temptress; but still a great poem!

I found one copy on-line here:

[www.mit.edu] />
This contains 'adult' images too.

rikki.


Re: Necessity of procreation
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.phoenix-01rh15-16rt.az.dial-access.att.net)
Date: December 16, 2003 10:15AM


Thanks for reminding me of that one, rikki. One of the best last lines ever written!




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