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Help please?
Posted by: Vasant (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: December 05, 2003 01:23PM

I would very much welcome your help please. I am trying to find a poem that may be called Sorab and Rustom. I am not sure of the spelling, don't know the poet, and can't remember any lines!!

It was about two brothers - I think they were brothers anyway - who were engaged in a dual to the death, neither knowing that they were siblings. The names of the brothers were Sorab and Rustom.

Thank you one and all for your assistance.


Re: Help please?
Posted by: RJAllen (193.114.111.---)
Date: December 05, 2003 02:40PM

Sohrab and Rustum by Matthew Arnold. They were father and son actually. Google.


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Pam Adams (134.71.192.---)
Date: December 05, 2003 03:24PM

It's located in the archives here.

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pam


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Vasant (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: December 05, 2003 03:29PM

Thanks Pam. Much appreciated.

Vasant


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Vasant (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: December 05, 2003 03:29PM

Thanks. Much appreciated.

Vasant


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Jewan (208.62.174.---)
Date: February 07, 2004 02:41AM

I think it was father and son/ not 2 brothers.

jewan52@hotmail.com


Re: Help please?
Posted by: RJAllen (193.114.111.---)
Date: February 07, 2004 01:45PM

Just thought, Balin and Balan, in Tennyson's Idylls of the King, are brothers...Did we give the right poem?


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Vasant (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: February 10, 2004 06:39AM

You did indeed give me the right one, thank you.

Vasant


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Vasant (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: February 10, 2004 06:40AM

It was, thank you for your help.

Vasant


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Peter BOND (---.dyn.iinet.net.au)
Date: January 25, 2005 09:55PM

Just read Sohrab And Rustum for the second time. The first time was in high bschool in 1960 and there was an introduction with it that out lined the history prior to the events that took place in the poem.
The book I read it from was a school issue text book that no body else has ever heard of So I am wondering If there is any hope of getting a copy of that introduction so I can show my daughter and help her to appreciate the poem in all its beauty and meaning? ....


Re: Help please?
Posted by: lg (---.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 25, 2005 10:36PM

Peter, this may help you:

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Les


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Ashley L. Hawken (---.res.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 11, 2005 10:39AM

Peter:

I studied Sohrab and Rustum in 1950 as a sophomore at Gonzaga College High School in Washington, D.C. The poem was contained in an anthology entitled Prose and Poetry for Appreciation, containing all of the literature that we were to study that year. The poem has left a lasting impression on me and often I have made reference to it. Since the book is likely long out of print, I have copied the poemís introduction as it is found on pages 421-422 of the referenced anthology.

I trust that your daughter will enjoy this fine epic poem.

Sincerely,
Ashley L. Hawken

Prose and Poetry for Appreciation
Edited by H. Ward McGraw, A.M.
Revised by Julian L. Maline, S.J., PhD and William J. McGucken, S.J. PhD
The L.W. Singer Company (Syracuse, Chicago, Dallas)
Copyright 1934, 1935, 1940

SOHRAB AND RUSTUM
Mathew Arnold

By Way of Introduction: Sohrab and Rustum is taken from the Shah Nameh, or Book of Kings, which was written in the tenth century by the Persian poet Firdusi. The Book of Kings has to do largely with the ancient strife between the people of Iran, the Persians, and the people of Turan, a name given in Persian mythology to the nomadic peoples of Central Asia, who are called Tartars in the poem. The land of Turan may be said to have corresponded roughly to modern Turkestan (sic).

The hero of the Book of Kings is Rustum. He was the son of Zal, who, according to legend, was descended from Jacob. Because his hair at birth was snow-white, Zal was taken by his father into the mountains and left there to die. He was found, however, by a fabulous creature, half human and half bird Ė the simurgh. The simurgh carried Zal to her nest and there cared for him until Zalís father, overcome by remorse, prayed that his son might be restored to him. Zalís kingdom was Seistan, which is now the westernmost province of Afghanistan.

Rustum was a mighty warrior whose fame spread afar. Tamineh, a princess of Ader-baijan (sic), hearing of his mighty deeds, fell in love with him. In order to effect a meeting with him, she caused his horse Ruksh to be stolen. In pursuit of his horse Rustum met Tamineh, whom he married. He was, however, called away to war by the Persian king.

After Rustumís departure, Sohrab was born. Tamineh, fearing that Rustum would take a boy away to train in arms, sent word that the child was a girl. According to the original story, Rustum left with Tamineh an amulet of onyx to be given to the child as a mark of identification. For this amulet, the poet has substituted a seal pricked on Sohrabís arm. When Sohrab learned that the mighty Rustum was his father, he set out in search of him. He became a great warrior himself and the so-called champion of the Tartar hosts

The poem opens with the Tartar invasion of Persia, leaving us to find out how it came about that the father and son were on different sides in the conflict.

(pages 421-422)

(Poem begins here)


Re: Help please?
Posted by: lakin (---.net81-66-198.noos.fr)
Date: April 11, 2005 07:28AM


Sorab and Rustom is a wonderful poem about a father and his son who met and fought each other on the battlefield and only knew each other when the son was dying of a wound inflicted by the father. The poet, I think is Mathew Arnold

I am also looking for an Anthology of Poems which I had when a student some 40 years ago which included also poems by Keat, Shelley, Burns, Gray etc. I think there were two books of poems 18th and early 19th century English poets. I forget the editions. I would like so much to buy these two volumes .


Re: Help please?
Posted by: lakin (---.net81-66-198.noos.fr)
Date: April 11, 2005 09:09AM


Sorab and Rustom is a wonderful poem about a father and his son who met and fought each other on the battlefield and only knew each other when the son was dying of a wound inflicted by the father. The poet, I think is Mathew Arnold

I am also looking for an Anthology of Poems which I had when a student some 40 years ago which included also poems by Keat, Shelley, Burns, Gray etc. I think there were two books of poems 18th and early 19th century English poets. I forget the editions. I would like so much to buy these two volumes . Rml


Re: Help please?
Posted by: Robert Haim (64.80.9.---)
Date: May 06, 2005 10:18AM

Sohrab and Rustum was included in "A Book of Narrative Verse" from Oxford University Press when I first read it in the 1960,s. There are recent editions of this book but I am unsure of the current contents.
St. Agnes Eve by Keats, Mort d'Arthur by Mallory and other wonderful narrative poems were and still may be included. Try and find a copy if you can.




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