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To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Serene (62.39.222.---)
Date: November 06, 2003 05:49PM

Is this poem by Yeats appropriate for a baby's announcement card? I thought I'd make sure it is before having them printed.


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Serene (62.39.222.---)
Date: November 06, 2003 05:55PM

Sorry. I mean by Blake. It's almost midnight over here. Need a cuppa.


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: November 06, 2003 06:07PM

Only YOU can say whether it's appropriate for announcing YOUR baby.

I wouldn't use it for my own, because I'm Jewish and there's definite Christian meaning in later lines of the same poem, which ends:

Every Morn & every Night
Some are Born to sweet Delight.
Some are Born to sweet Delight,
Some are born to Endless Night.
We are led to Believe a Lie
When we see not Thro' the Eye
Which was Born in a Night to Perish in a Night
When the Soul Slept in Beams of Light.
God Appears & God is Light
To those poor Souls who dwell in the Night,
But does a Human Form Display
To those who Dwell in Realms of day.


And I suppose some Christians would like the implication that their baby is the "human form" that God takes for them... and others would consider it blasphemous.

Back to you, Mom!


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Serene (62.39.221.---)
Date: November 07, 2003 03:56AM

Oh, I was thinking of using only the first few lines:

To see a World in a Grain of sand
And Heaven in a flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.

Is there any negativity in there? Or some hidden meaning...things like that?


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Talia (216.117.99.---)
Date: November 07, 2003 10:24AM

I think it's beautiful...and anyone who might disagree could just chalk you up to one of those crazy poets. I would use it, but then again, I am one of those crazy poets.


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-03rh15rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: November 07, 2003 11:35AM


Is there any negativity in there? Or some hidden meaning...things like that?


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Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Pam Adams (134.71.192.---)
Date: November 07, 2003 07:58PM

Besides, most readers of baby announcements aren't Blake experts. Go for it.

pam


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Elliot (149.123.60.---)
Date: November 14, 2003 06:03PM

Marion - Agreed, it does seem to have the Day/Night:Light/Darkness;Good/Evil imaging of some Christian works, but that was quite an accepted way of looking at Life(Birth)/Death. I've always like Blake, partly because his work didn't seem to follow the standard Christian Party line. I'd have to go back over some of his work to document just how I formed that opinion and as a Yidden myself, the more all encompasing Judaic view has aways been preferable to the black/white/good/evil philosophy.

E.


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Gemma (---.cl2.dsl.pol.co.uk)
Date: November 16, 2003 04:29PM

Ooooh yes I think it would be a lovely passage to use it's a good poem for new beginnings!


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: rikki (---.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
Date: November 17, 2003 03:08AM

I don't really know much about Blake (never been a big fan), but very little, if any, of his writing strikes me as truly Christian. I thought he was more into the Swedenborg philosophy - known as 'The New Church' - and definitely not Christian.
(Chesil? )

[www.swedenborgproject.org] />
rikki.


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: November 17, 2003 11:51AM


Elliot - point(s) taken; I should have said "christian" with a lower-case c.

And re the black-white dichotomy (and at the risk of AGREEING with you, thus challenging the tradition of "two Jews, three opinions"), YES, Judaism is all about the gray areas.

There is a Jewish word for OUR ABILITY TO BE TEMPTED TO DO THINGS THAT ARE CONTRARY TO OUR OWN SPIRITUAL BEST INTERESTS. The term is "satan." But we don't have concepts of Good-Evil per se. We think more in terms of DARK-LIGHT, in the sense of dark being the absence of light, not a "thing" in itself.

Therefore, though Blake may not have considered himself a Christian with a capital C for Church, he was (1) very much devoted to Jesus, and (2) very much convinced of Dark and Light as opposing forces.

Come to think of it, I'm surprised there isn't more Blakeness in STAR WARS. Lucas is obviously running out of material for his saga; you'd think he'd be devouring lamb-tiger and New Jerusalem stuff.


Re: To see a world in a grain of sand...
Posted by: Pam Adams (134.71.192.---)
Date: November 17, 2003 02:09PM

I'm overcome with a sudden desire to translate Blake into 'Yodish.'

Make thee did he who made the lamb?

Angry with my friend was I.

pam

[www.yodajeff.com]




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