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Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.ne)
Date: November 01, 2003 01:39PM

I have to write an essay about this poem citing two resources any suggestions?


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: -Les- (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 01, 2003 02:11PM

There are several places you can go for opinions on this poem, for instance:

[www.cs.rice.edu] />
[plagiarist.com] />
The poem has also been discussed here several times. Type in "Porphyria's Lover" in the search box above your post and you will find links to those discussions.


Les


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.ne)
Date: November 01, 2003 03:31PM

I cannot use opinions for reference, I need resources. But thanks anyway


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: -Les- (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 01, 2003 03:47PM

Go to google and type in Porphyria's Lover, you may get some results.

Opinions are resources as long as they are based on fact. But if you need bibliographical information, go to your local college or public library.

Les


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-02rh16rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: November 01, 2003 05:34PM


If Marcy is looking for historial references, as in where RB got the inspiration, I searched for them once, in vain. If the idea came from somewhere but the author's imagination, I was unable to find it. I do seem to remember there was a person named Porphyria, but nothing about a girl being strangled with her own hair. The color purple reference was also of no help.


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Linda (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: November 01, 2003 06:31PM

I thought Porphyria was a disease, didn't George III suffer from it?


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: November 01, 2003 06:38PM

Are there any poems by other authors that you can think of that somewhat relate to the same thing in Porphyria's Lover????


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: November 01, 2003 09:07PM

Hey where did all my help go??!!? Anybody got any good poems that relate to this poem. Would very much appreciate it. Been searching all night and haven't been able to come up with much. Not exactly sure which direction I want to take my essay. Please help. Thank you.


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-05rh15rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: November 02, 2003 11:49AM


Remain calm. Some who read this group (not me, obviously) actually have lives outside of the internet and will get around to your question if and when they feel like it.

A disease, yes, and George III had it.

See also (among zillions of other references available by searching the 'net):

[tinyurl.com] />
[1.1911encyclopedia.org]


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: -Les- (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 02, 2003 11:59AM



For comparison, you might want to see what the narrator feels about women in My Last Duchess and The Laboratory, both by Browning.


Les


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.ne)
Date: November 02, 2003 12:46PM

Thanks Les I thought about that too. Hugh thank you too, but are you always such a smart ass?


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Linda (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: November 02, 2003 12:48PM

Of course he is, that's why we love him. :-)


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: glenda (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: November 03, 2003 09:36AM

It's part of his charm.


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: IanB (---.tnt11.mel1.da.uu.net)
Date: November 03, 2003 10:05AM

Marcy, what do you mean by a 'resource'?


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: November 03, 2003 04:11PM

My english teacher gave us two choices of poetry to write an essay about he told us he wanted us to use one of his sources and one of our own to site in this essay. He wants us to learn mla and apa formatting , but I am not quite sure how he wants the essay written ( informational, critical, comparison, or opinion)


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: -Les- (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 03, 2003 04:38PM

Here are a few more sites which you might want to explore:

[classiclit.about.com] />
[owl.english.purdue.edu] />
[owl.english.purdue.edu] />

Les


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: November 03, 2003 05:49PM

Thank you again Les


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: IanB (---.tnt11.mel1.da.uu.net)
Date: November 03, 2003 07:01PM

Marcy, I'm just a simple Aussie, and sadly it's a long time since I had an English teacher.
Les probably understands all these things, but I'm clueless about 'mla and apa formatting' and, despite your response, still in the dark about what exactly you mean (?your teacher means) by a 'resource' or 'source' for your essay.
For instance, is this Emule site a resource? Would it be enough to find and quote from a library book that refers to Browning and his poems, including Porphyria's Lover? What source has your teacher selected? Does it indicate the type of source you are expected to select?
What's the purpose, anyway? Surely not to substitute someone else's thoughts about the poem for your own, in your essay. Is it to show that you are capable of researching what others have written about it?
Perhaps, if you aren't sure what your teacher requires on some point, instead of making a puzzle of it, the best course would be just to ask him/her.



Post Edited (11-03-03 18:10)


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.ne)
Date: November 04, 2003 10:17PM

Ian- easier said than done, my teacher doesn't like to answer direct questions because he doesn't want us to become dependent on him for answers that is why I am here on this website. He is a difficult man and no one in my class has a clue about what the guy is talking about, so whatever info you or anyone else can give me is most helpful. I do appreciate you responding back to my questions, Thank you.


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-04rh15rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: November 05, 2003 10:20AM


I read minds, lucky for you. He is looking for 'dramatic monologue'. Go look that up, and you will get the 'A' grade.


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: -Les- (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: November 05, 2003 12:07PM

In response to Ian's question, let me make a general assumption about resources. In most scholarly work, resources are divided into categories:

1. Primary sources-- those sources which are a direct document of the past. In this case, the poem itself and the work in which it was sited.

2. Secondary sources--those sources which comment upon the work. In this case, the analysis or commentary on the poem by those who have read the work.

Because the instructor provided the primary source, he/she is certainly looking for a secondary source.

Les


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: Marcy (---.nas14.kansas-city1.mo.us.da.qwest.ne)
Date: November 09, 2003 10:43PM

You all have been very helpful Thank you.


Marcy


Re: Robert Brownings "Porphyria's Lover"
Posted by: sylvie (---.rivrw5.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
Date: November 10, 2003 05:59AM

perhaps Shakespeare with Orthello,
were especially he thinks he's crime is justified in the end




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