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Listening
Posted by: Nasha (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: October 02, 2003 04:36AM

I am looking for some poetry based around the theme of listening and the importance of what is not said in relation to what is spoken. Poignant pauses, epiphany etc - as an afterthought. Heavy stuff so a few fun examples would be also appreciated.

Nasha


Re: Listening
Posted by: Nasha (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: October 02, 2003 06:24AM

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Here are a few I found today:-

[library.nothingness.org] />
[plagiarist.com] />
[www.4degreez.com] />
Nasha


Re: Listening
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: October 09, 2003 12:12PM

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"The Dangling Conversation"

It’s a still life water color
Of a now late afternoon
As the sun shines through the curtained lace
And shadows wash the room
And we sit and drink our coffee
Couched in our indifference
Like shells upon the shore
You can hear the ocean roar
In the dangling conversation
And the superficial sighs
The borders of our lives.

And you read your Emily Dickinson
And I my Robert Frost,
And we note our places with bookmarkers
That measure what we’ve lost.
Like a poem poorly written
We are verses out of rhythm
Couplets out of rhyme
In syncopated time
And the dangling conversation
And the superficial sighs
Are the borders of our lives.

Yes we speak of thing that matter
With words that must be said,
“Can analysis be worthwhile?
Is the theatre really dead?”
Now the room is softly faded
And I only kiss your shadow
I cannot feel your hand
You’re a stranger now unto me
Lost in the dangling conversation
And the superficial sighs
In the borders of our lives.

© 1966 Paul Simon


Re: Listening
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: October 09, 2003 12:14PM

This is one I love. --MarianNYC

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"Whatever’s Written In Your Heart"
by Gerry Rafferty

Wakin’ up here on a rainy day,
I swore last time that I would stay away.
I came down here to talk to you,
I said this time I might get through.

I heard her speak but all the words were dead,
We talked all night and left it all unsaid.
So we agree to disagree,
At least we’ve got our memory.

(chorus)
Whatever’s written in your heart, that’s all that matters,
You’ll find a way to say it all someday, yeah.
Whatever’s written in your heart, that’s all that matters,
Yeah, night and day, night and day.

You’ve got your secrets, yeah, and I’ve got mine,
We’ve played this game now for a long, long time.
You don’t lean on anyone,
You never had no place to run.

You never wanted me to get too close,
We love and hate the ones we need the most.
I tried to find a way to you,
One thing I could say to you.

(chorus)

Maybe I’ve always set my sights too high,
You take the easy way and still get by.
I know there ain’t no special way,
We all get there anyway.

I heard her speak but all the words were dead,
We talked all night and left it all unsaid.
So we agree to disagree,
At least we’ve got our memory.

(chorus)

Yeah, night and day, and day...


Re: Listening
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: October 09, 2003 12:17PM

D.H. Lawrence: "Listening"

I LISTEN to the stillness of you,
My dear, among it all;
I feel your silence touch my words as I talk,
And take them in thrall.

(There are more verses: [www.bartleby.com] )

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Go to Bartleby.com, choose VERSE, and search for the word UNSPOKEN - several hits, and some may be useful to you.


Re: Listening
Posted by: RJAllen (193.114.111.---)
Date: October 09, 2003 12:54PM

Philip Larkin: Talking in Bed


Re: Listening
Posted by: marian2 (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: October 10, 2003 04:14AM

The Dangling Conversation lyrics surprised me - I'd always heard ' of an hour, late afternoon' - just shows I didn't listen properly!


Re: Listening
Posted by: Nasha (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: October 10, 2003 02:17PM

Marian-NYC, thank-you, ah! Gerry Rafferty! Paul Simon! - enlightening!
I can remember Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street"really well but I'm a bit ignorant on his other stuff . I thought the Paul Simon song was a poem until I saw Paul Simon typed at the bottom which kinda prompted me to consider what distinguishes lyrics from poetry. If you have any ideas on this I would love to hear them.

Natasha


Re: Listening
Posted by: Nasha (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: October 10, 2003 02:23PM

RE: [giron.itgo.com] />
RJAllen, thank-you so much, that was excellent - I never would have considered looking at the question from that angle, erm (blush!)

Nasha


Re: Listening
Posted by: Linda (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 10, 2003 03:11PM

Not a lot in my opinion. I always thought that the distinction is between poetry and prose. Prose you can read silently, skimming even just for the sense. Poetry needs the sound as well. Each word must be read, it is there for a purpose, a synonym would lose some of the effect the poet is trying to achieve.

I think that's why I prefer shorter poems, if they go on for ages I lose the impetus.


Re: Listening
Posted by: Pam Adams (134.71.192.---)
Date: October 10, 2003 08:50PM

The issue's been discussed and fought over before. I tend to think it depends on the lyric. Some make good poetry when read and some don't. (and, I'm sure, some poems sound good when sung and some don't)

Here's a link to one of the discussions. [www.emule.com] />
pam


Re: Listening
Posted by: Nasha (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: October 12, 2003 07:03AM

Pam, thankyou, glad that one is wrapped up. To return to my original post, the following article caught my eye -

The Talking Being Listening: Gertrude Stein's "Patriarchal Poetry" and the Sound of Reading.

[www.findarticles.com] /> Poems around these themes would be much appreciated.

Natasha




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