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Somewhere Between Earth and Heaven
Posted by: MrSledge (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: June 18, 2003 12:34AM

If I can be of any assistance, please email me directly. I have been teaching English for over a decade, have a MA/English, and have a new book with a review from Robert Creeley that can be found on Amazon.com ("Somewhere Between Earth and Heaven"). I also advise a local Poetic Arts Club. Please visit the Amazon.com title mentioned above to discover how I may be able to help. Thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you.

JS (Amazon.com --- Somewhere Between Earth and Heaven)


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Les (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: June 18, 2003 01:11AM

Mr. Sledge, would you like to post your hyperlink so that interested readers can go there diirectly, such as this:

[www.emule.com] />
Les


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: iza (202.159.23.---)
Date: June 18, 2003 06:23AM

I'm in a class that is analyzing poetry and I had a few questions.
what is the meaning of "illustration of poetry"?
what are characters within poetry"illustration of poetry"? Who do the represent or what do they stand for?
for example: is it more an expression of ones own feelings towards other people...of dreams, visions, or worries, and concernes?...what all can or is usually represented in poetry?


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: barbara luder (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: June 18, 2003 08:04AM

what is your understanding and comprehension of ernest dowson's poem - vitae summa brevis spem nos vetat incohare longam?


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Keeper of Light (---.texoma.net)
Date: June 18, 2003 03:12PM

My understanding and comprehension of this is ..............................

Oh, yeah I can't even read it. I know you weren't asking me. Just wanted to ........................................................

I've never done that before. Sorry if I am being stupid. I know I am.

Okay I'll quit now.

I would like to know what that means myself!!!


"Loving people is like farting in the wind; You don't actually accomplish anything, but you feel better."

~The Great and Powerful Angelia~


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Pam Adams (---)
Date: June 18, 2003 05:04PM

Essentially- life is short, enjoy it while you can.

pam

Vitae Summa Brevis Spem Nos Vetat Incohare Longam
by Ernest Dowson

Vitae Summa Brevis Spem Nos Vetat Incohare Longam

(The brief sum of life forbids us the hope of enduring long - Horace)


They are not long, the weeping and the laughter,
Love and desire and hate:
I think they have no portion in us after
We pass the gate.

They are not long, the days of wine and roses:
Out of a misty dream
Our path emerges for a while, then closes
Within a dream.


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: rgilmer (---.biz.mindspring.com)
Date: June 19, 2003 02:40PM

The link for his book at amazon.com is here:

[www.amazon.com] />

Best,

Aaron

--El mulo poeta - contact@emule.com


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Missy Gettel (206.145.171.---)
Date: June 19, 2003 02:51PM

Thank you for offering your assistance to people like me. I have been looking on and off for over a year for a poem written during the Cold War entitled "I Will Not Go Back". It was a mesh of creationism and evolutionism. It was wonderful. If you could help me find it or point me in the direction of someone who could. Thank you very much.


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Colleen Dean (---.net653.tx.sprint-hsd.net)
Date: June 20, 2003 10:21AM

Dear Sir,

I am trying to find a copy of 'the Angelus' (sp) and also of ' the girl that I used to be'. I am seventy-four years old and years ago was involved with the 'little theater' in Houston. I love both of these and would dearly love to find them. I kept all my material for many years and then when my husband passed away I got rid of it, not thinking I might want it later. I need it now to read to a group at my church.

If you can help me find these I would greatly appreciate it.


Sincerely,

Colleen Dean


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: marian2 (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: June 20, 2003 11:20AM

I doubtthis is the right one, because it is credited to someone as written in 1991, but it also appears under anonymouse and in style seems older than 1991, so it's worth a try:

The Girl I Used To Be




She came tonight as I sat alone..
The girl I used to be....
And she gazed at me with her earnest eyes
And questioned reproachfully:

Have you forgotten the many plans
And hopes I had for you?
The great career, the splendid fame,
All the wonderful things to do?

Where is the mansion of stately height
With all its gardens rare?
The silken robes that I dreamed for you
And the jewels in your hair?

And as she spoke, I was very sad
For I wanted her to be pleased with me...
This slender girl from the shadowy past
The girl that I used to be.

So gently rising, I took her hand
And guided her up the stairs
Where peacefully sleeping, my babies lay
Innocent, sweet, and fair.

And I told her that these are my only gems,
And precious they are to me;
That silken robes, is my motherhood
Of costly simplicity.

My mansion of stately height is love,
And the only career I know
Is serving each day in these sheltered walls
For the dear ones who come and go.

And as I spoke to my shadowy guest,
She smiled through her tears at me.
And I saw the woman that I am now
Pleased the girl I used to be.

~Author unknown

If it isn't the one, can you remember any phrases or lines, or who wrote it. It's easiest to search on the Internet from a phrase with an unusual combination of words, as it works by comparing them. A general idea can only be traced if it 'rings a bell with' someone.

The Angelus is tougher - for the same reasons, can you remember any phrases or lines from it, or who wrote it. Searching 'The Angelus' or even 'The Angelus' + poem, brings up a lot of irrelevent stuff.


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Desi (---.chania.access.acn.gr)
Date: June 20, 2003 11:41AM

Mr Sledge,

you are very very ambitious. If you have a look around this forum it exists mostly of poetry questions and answers! If you want to answer everything on your own, I suggest you give up your jobs and get full time (about 24 hours or so) behind a computer!

Or more simply, you can join us by reading posts and to reply to what you think is interesting and/or where you can contribute mostly.

And people with questions can best click on "new topic" and put their question clearly in the subject. In that way we have a clear overview of questions, and which ones are answered.

I have a deja vu. Stephen, can you help? (don't forget to add the emailaddresses!)


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: StephenFryer (---.bbd11tcl.dsl.pol.co.uk)
Date: June 20, 2003 12:23PM

Sorry desi I missed this one. Clearly one of my jobs as moderator is to be on the alert for portmanteau posts like this and zap them or retitle them before the unwary are trapped.

And it's nice to have you back.

Stephen


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.denver-03rh15rt.co.dial-access.att.net)
Date: June 20, 2003 01:39PM


May I respectfully suggest that MrSledge is merely spamming the group, albeit in a new manner? He has made exactly two posts, both of which invite readers to his Amazon offering.


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Les (---.trlck.ca.charter.com)
Date: June 20, 2003 01:48PM

My suggestion to Stephen, or Aaron would be to simply retitle this thread "Somewhere Between Earth and Heaven". Otherwise, curious newbies will certainly find it like a lost Chevy Tahoe, and drag it back up to the top.

Les


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: Tandy (---.networkrichmond.com)
Date: June 20, 2003 06:01PM

marion2 -

Do you think the poem she is looking for is Edwin Markham's "The Man with the Hoe," which is inspired by the painting called "The Angelus" by Jean-Francoise Millet? (See:www.emule.com/2poetry/phorum/read.php?f=4&i=29465&t=29462> which is ilza's answer to your poetry/painting question!


Re: All of Your Poetry Questions Answered Here
Posted by: StephenFryer (---.bbd07tcl.dsl.pol.co.uk)
Date: June 21, 2003 02:37AM

Thanx Les - 'tis done.

Stephen


Re: Somewhere Between Earth and Heaven
Posted by: marian2 (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: June 21, 2003 04:28AM

Tandy - You're right! It could well be that poem, but the Angelus is also mentioned in several other poems I've come across at various times, and I can't identify them all. That's why I asked for a phrase or something.




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