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Posted by: douglas (
Date: May 21, 2003 01:08PM

Kiplings poem reffers to the captain that lead the charge in Africa that may have resulted in the Boer war. This is a fantastic poem and well worth all the priase, but does anyone know of greater information that found on the history of the poem itself.

Re: If
Posted by: Marian-NYC (
Date: May 21, 2003 01:18PM

There's a little bit here:

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There it says that Kipling was inspired by "Jameson and Rhodes." (Cecil Rhodes and Leander Starr Jameson)

Search for [Kipling + Jameson + Rhodes] and you'll get plenty of historical essays tying things together, such as:

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Re: If
Posted by: Pam Adams (---)
Date: May 21, 2003 01:29PM

You might also try the Kipling Society website: .


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