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Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: miriam callanan (---.ucd.ie)
Date: January 09, 2003 08:23AM


Hello there

Some time ago a boyfriend sent me part of a poem. But I don't know what it is, by whom or where and he wouldn't tell me. It might be a latin or greek translation or possibly from the book of solomon. I've been search so long now! Please tell me if you know what it is or have any ideas! Here it is,

Like a god she seems to be
or even more may I dare say
who sitting by your side
watches and listens to your gentle laughter
when I look at you my dear
my whole heart loses courage
my senses fail me
and darkness over come me....


There was a suggestion that it might be Sappho, but if it is I can't find it!

Please help!

Thanks

Miri


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.sdsl.cais.net)
Date: January 09, 2003 12:54PM


Yup, Sappho.

[www.sappho.com];


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: miriam callanan (---.ucd.ie)
Date: January 10, 2003 05:19AM


Thanks a mil! You don't know it that its complete form or an unusual translation? Or where I might get it?! I appreciate it! Thanks!

M


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.sdsl.cais.net)
Date: January 10, 2003 11:10AM


Say what? You lost me.


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: Diane (---.rochester.rr.com)
Date: January 11, 2003 04:01PM

She wants to know if that is the entire poem's translation and where she might find it in print.


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: miriam callanan (---.ucd.ie)
Date: January 13, 2003 05:56AM


exactly! If anybody knows I'd really appreciate it!


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.sdsl.cais.net)
Date: January 13, 2003 11:57AM


I'm still befuddled. The link I posted had several translations of the original work. I feel sure there are hundreds of copies in many books, both translations and in her original language. I don't read Greek, so I did not go looking, but likely a Greek-enhanced browser could chase some down.


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: January 13, 2003 08:08PM



"a Greek-enhanced browser"


I saw that phrase out of context and loved it.


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: Desi (---.clientlogic.ie)
Date: January 14, 2003 05:16AM

[www.perseus.org] />
Only fragments are left of her poetry. so often a poem ends strange, and probably it had more, but unfortunately that's irrecoverably lost. I assume the same goes for this poem.


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: miriam callanan (---.ucd.ie)
Date: January 14, 2003 05:22AM


Aaahhh, I see! I'm so slow! Sorry Hugh, I didin't see the attachment before now! All is clear! Thanks very much!

Miri


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: IanB (---.tnt11.mel1.da.uu.net)
Date: December 07, 2003 09:47AM

I believe this poem in the original Greek is one of Sappho's poems that does survive almost complete. I have a copy in Greek (which I can't read, and can't post here), comprising four stanzas, in the Appendix to a book of poems of Catullus. He translated most of it into three stanzas of Latin, imitating her metre and format, as follows [punctuation added]:

ille mi par esse deo videtur,
ille, si fas est, superare divos,
qui sedens adversus identidem te
spectat et audit

dulce ridentem, misero quod omnes
eripit sensus mihi: nam simul te,
Lesbia, aspexi, nihil est super mi
vocis in ore;

lingua sed torpet, tenuis sub artus
flamma demanat, sonitu suopte
tintinant aures, gemina teguntur
lumina nocte.

As Hugh said, many translations have been made. One I like better than any of those on the link that Hugh posted is the following by F.L.Lucas:

Him I hold as happy as God in Heaven,
Who can sit and gaze at your face before him,
Who can sit and hear from your lips that sweetest
Music you utter––

Hear your lovely laughter, that sets a-tremble
All my heart with flutterings wild as terror.
Ah, when I behold you an instant, straightway
All my words fail me,

Helpless halts my tongue, a devouring fever
Runs like fire through every vein within me,
Darkness veils my vision, my ears are deafened,
Beating like hammers;

Cold the sweat runs down me; a sudden trembling
Leaves my limbs a-quiver; my face grows paler
Than the summer-grasses; I see beside me
Death stand, and madness.



Post Edited (12-07-03 15:44)


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: Hugh Clary (---.phoenix-01rh15-16rt.az.dial-access.att.net)
Date: December 07, 2003 12:12PM


Yes, excellent. Swinburne on Sapphics:

[eir.library.utoronto.ca]


Re: Mysterious Ancient Poem! I think! Need Help!!
Posted by: Marian-NYC (---.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
Date: December 08, 2003 07:47PM

A friend of mine invented "fragments" of Sappho for a humor magazine in college. This was my favorite:




Dance, girls:
Aphrodite is bored.




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