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The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes
Posted by: marian2 (192.168.128.---)
Date: September 08, 2006 04:11AM

The Phantom-Wooer

A ghost, that loved a lady fair,
Ever in the starry air
Of midnight at her pillow stood;
And, with a sweetness skies above
The luring words of human love
Her soul the phantom wooed.
Sweet and sweet is their poisoned note,
The little snakes of silver throat,
In mossy skulls that nest and lie,
Ever singing, 'die, oh! die.'

Young soul, put off your flesh, and come
With me into the quiet tomb,
Our bed is lovely, dark, and sweet;
The earth will swing us, as she goes,
Beneath our coverlid of snows,
And the warm leaden sheet.
Dear and dear is their poisoned note,
The little snakes of silver throat,
In mossy skulls that nest and lie,
Ever singing, 'die, oh! die.'

This one intrigues me - I find it very seductive, and keep going back to it. It raises questions in my mind - is love death? is death love? Does falling in love make one 'dead' to other potential loves. Does it appeal to anyone else?

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2006 05:28PM by lg.


Re: The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes *
Posted by: Hugh Clary (192.168.128.---)
Date: September 12, 2006 06:10PM

Does it appeal to anyone else?

Well, to me obviously, since I commented on it in another post. I see it as death's lure to the living. The dream pedlary one I thought had a similar theme - in that one, I said Beddoes was claiming that death was superior to life. That is, death is the reality and life the dream. Since what we experience after death is superior to what we have now in life, we should hasten to reach what lies beyond, he believes.

Not a tempting philosophy to me personally since, if he is right, I will eventually experience it in any case; but if wrong, I immediately lose forever all that I might have experienced while alive. Same argument against those who claim we should forego all earthly pleasures in pursuit of a promised heaven. If they are wrong, we forfeit all that we could have enjoyed by seeking the false reward.

Be a suicide bomber? Not for me, thanks anyway.

Oh, by the way, with the new system, make sure you ALWAYS Copy any new post before hitting the Post button. If you are forced to Log In again, it would appear your post is sent into neverretrieveland. If it has been Copied, it can be Pasted in again.


Re: The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes *
Posted by: marian2 (192.168.128.---)
Date: September 27, 2006 03:38AM

Sorry, Hugh - I got the poem from a book I was reading - must have missed your post about it.

When one of my sons was an infant he asked me why I didn't kill him, as being with Jesus in Heaven was so much nicer than being here, and we'd end up there anyway - he's always been one for instant gratification. I was a bit stuck for an answer to that one. Fortunately he rapidly grew out of such tendencies - I hope!

I really like both those Beddow poems - the only two I know - without going along with his philosophy too far - must find some others and see if he only has the one theme. It's interesting how often one can prefer a poem or a person you disagree fundamentally with to one that fits your philosophy - I'm never sure if it's healthy or hypocritical.


Re: The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes *
Posted by: Hugh Clary (192.168.128.---)
Date: September 27, 2006 12:21PM

Well, it's like reading your man Kipling, doncha know. Can't agree with his points of view, but he says them so brilliantly!

I have probably read Boddoes's Dream-Pedlary one dozens of times, searching both for the correct interpretation and whatever secrets he may have hidden therein. Cannot say I am 100% sure I have nailed the message(s) correctly, but he writes so well, one suspects he may very well know some answers unrevealed to us lesser folks.

[www.tlbeddoes.org] />
[www.litgothic.com]


Re: The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes *
Posted by: windstrees (192.168.128.---)
Date: October 10, 2006 03:49PM

Check out the music videos of pretty princess Stephany she looks good I hope she is safe I want her safe healthy and happy.There are a lot of videos of the royal family of monaco check it out!

[www.royalty.nu]

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2006 03:49PM by windstrees.


Re: The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes *
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (192.168.128.---)
Date: October 10, 2006 03:55PM

Despite being linked to numerous men, 41-year-old Stephanie continues to search for peace and contentment in her private life, with the media throughout Europe continually speculating about her latest beau, her second marriage to Portuguese circus acrobat Lopez Perez having ended in acrimony.


A marriage to an acrobat that ends in acrimony !


Re: The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes *
Posted by: JohnnySansCulo (192.168.128.---)
Date: October 10, 2006 04:05PM

DON'T WORRY, i SAVE YOUR POSTS BEFORE THE FASCISTS CAN DELETE THEM !


Re: The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes *
Posted by: windstrees (192.168.128.---)
Date: October 10, 2006 04:08PM

I want my picture perfect poems saying everything that you roylay want to hear!


Re: The Phantom-Wooer by Thomas Love Beddoes *
Posted by: windstrees (192.168.128.---)
Date: October 10, 2006 04:52PM

Do you think there could be another WW1
Germany and Engalnd and US
Notz flags that mean worship the devil
Aginst my prfect beautiful flag of the U.K.
Its possible a job yousee
To tell everybody about the party
The peace party in Isreal
For normal christian people
Knowing they are and devil worshpiers
worship the devil kill jesus
rais the notzi flag and be aginst go
Kill the devil from Briton save a jew
Save the jews and kill germans
where are they going to germany
Where they belong in time
Did Jesus realy get killed in WW1
was the entire family of the peacful moses
mother mary and jesus family die
just to worship the evil devil
was it it take away everything we pray
is this the one day the holy war comed
the day dying angels fall for demonds
the day they are realy bad in a real sence
they are murder killing jews today
somehow some way there will be another way
that way I say to germany if I may
Where do they go when the planes fly
where do we go whne the gorund shakes
to notzi again and stop the fall
of angels from heaven for hell
to rise to earth when the kingdoms
all are away from us that day
the plan of reality today
is to worship the devil
forever and a day
that is why it is that way
so no one sees the scaryness
when you see the fate the devil
has for everyone of the people
of earth that is why the kingdom
must come and the only way to
stop it for the kingdom to come
to this free place here and now
now and forever to be Zion
and not hell Zion or hell
who can tell away hell
come Zion please come Zion




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